.US Registry Deleting Domain Names Retroactively!!
Date: Thursday August 15 2002, @03:24AM
Topic: Country-Code Top Level Domains (ccTLDs)

Ron_Bennett writes "I've been busy much of the summer, but recently I noticed that one of my .US domains (FuckCensorship.US [whois record]) that was *successfully* registered and functional for months stopped working and appears to be in the process of being deleted!!

It appears the .US NIC has chosen to delete numerous domains - could be in the tens of thousands that contain one or more of the "7 dirty" words along with others too from what I've been told. For as bad as NSI was years ago, I don't recall them retroactively deleting domains like NeuLevel is currently in the process of doing in .US."

The United States claims to be the land of freedom and yet the .US ccTLD is going to delete FuckCensorship.US domain along with many others.

It's a sad commentary when one can register so-called "dirty" domains in many ccTLDs including .NU and .CC, but not in the .US. Heck, I've even found some "dirty" domains registered in .RU (Russia!!). Anyways, I'm really dismayed that a country that claims to have so much freedom seems to have less and less all the time.

Some may think "who cares"...keep in mind that .US Registry's action reiterates again that registrants in many ccTLDs assume much risk of losing their domains for nefarious reasons at any time with little to no recourse. So while .US Registry is deleting "dirty" domains at the moment, they could at any time delete other domains too; especially those of a controversial nature or linked to information that government officials didn't like.

Lastly, anyone with a .US domain registration should ensure they also have the matching (or at least similar) domain in another ccTLD or better yet in a gTLD such as in .COM, .NET, .INFO, or .ORG. Anyone who relies solely on their .US domain functioning without interruption could one day see their site go dark! And for anyone considering registering in .US...one word: Don't!! There are better and more secure TLD choices out there.

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Re: .US Registry Deleting Domain Names Retroactive
by michael (froomkin@lawUNSPAM.tm) on Thursday August 15 2002, @04:28AM (#8488)
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Bret Fausett pointed me to this ICANN Blog item and this .us policy, which I admit I'd forgotten about. I have some doubts about the legality of this policy, although the fact that its been laundered through a contractor (the usual US-domain-name-policy strategy) makes a lawsuit that much more complex and uncertain. Indeed, if there's no evidence that the policy was encouraged either overtly or covertly by the government (and I wasn't paying any attention to this issue, so I have no idea what the facts are), then the NSI precedent suggests that a court would not find this to be illegal.

My meta-view remains the same old boring song: none of this would matter if there were a constant stream of new TLDs with varying policies. In that world, we'd appreciate having a few TLDs with restrictive policies, even (perish the thought) a few with *web content restrictions* they would police. If there were a multiplicity of competitive open and closed domains, this just wouldn't be an issue.

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Re: .US Registry Deleting Domain Names Retroactive
by lextext on Thursday August 15 2002, @05:21AM (#8492)
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"...this policy has been developed in direct consultation with the U.S. Department of Commerce..."

-- Bret

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Re: .US Registry Deleting Domain Names Retroactive
by PeterBarron (pebarron@hotmail.com) on Thursday August 15 2002, @12:00PM (#8513)
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Move out of your house and find another one, fool.

++Peter
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Re: Stop your whining
by fnord (groy2kNO@SPAMyahoo.com) on Thursday August 15 2002, @12:45PM (#8515)
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My reading of the policy is that registrants of such deleted names will have their money refunded. And, I do think it is the consumer's job (particularily in the US) to talk to Commerce. -g
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Re: Stop your whining
by unsolicited (unsolicited@audomainnews.info) on Thursday August 15 2002, @10:50PM (#8527)
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That's ICANN's job? This is a country code that does not have a contract with ICANN. ICANN has no role currently in the administration of .us.
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Re: .US Registry Deleting Domain Names Retroactive
by PeterBarron (pebarron@hotmail.com) on Friday August 16 2002, @07:00AM (#8547)
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If sour grapes means pointing out an argument that is rediculous on its face, then sour grapes it is.

Those who say there is no demand are merely trying to maintain the artificial scarcity that props up the value of their speculated domains, or their registries. I suspect that quite a few anonymous posters, like yourself, work for Afilias or Neulevel or Verisign.

If there is no demand, then new registries will go out of business. The market takes care of itself. In no other market are such protections enacted.

++Peter
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Re: .US Registry Deleting Domain Names Retroactive
by fnord (groy2kNO@SPAMyahoo.com) on Wednesday August 21 2002, @05:00AM (#8622)
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Hey Jay, where you been hiding since domain policy went away? Always enjoyed your views even if I sometimes disagreed. -g
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