.US Sunrise Begins
Date: Wednesday April 24 2002, @02:33AM
Topic: Country-Code Top Level Domains (ccTLDs)

Anonymous writes "Sometimes the good guys win. It appears that Image Online Design, those guys who wanted to run .WEB and had to fight a campaign just to keep Afilias and Neustar from getting their greedy hands on it, has successfully registered web.us in the .US Sunrise."

Score one for the good guys. I hope they put it to good use.

++Peter

[For a considerably less cheerful appraisal of the .us rollout see the ICANN Blog's items ".US Sell-Out Begins Tomorrow" and "Last Minute Scrambling on .US.-mf]

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BulkRegister FAILS to Register .US Domains...
by Ron_Bennett on Wednesday April 24 2002, @07:17AM (#5955)
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Not sure if I'm the only one, but BulkRegister.com FAILED to register any .US domains that I'd pre-ordered. I eventually had to go through some other registrars to get some of the .US domains I wanted that were still available.

And sadly I'm not surprised what happened...these new TLDs have been nothing but trouble - tech glitches, policy changes, and corruption that makes the "mob" look good in comparison. Not sure what the cause was with BulkRegister, but in any event I'm glad I didn't spend any extra money on pre-registrations, etc. I'm still working to recover the funds I paid to Dotster for .BIZ applications.
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BulkRegister.com Addendum...I got some...very stra
by Ron_Bennett on Wednesday April 24 2002, @08:01AM (#5957)
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I just checked in my BulkRegister.com account and I see I got some .US domains that I preordered, but not many others.

It appears that BulkRegister had some technical glitches during submission of some .US applications since I got many emails from BulkRegister saying my .US domain apps were sent to the .US registry but were rejected. And yet I was able to register many of the same .US domains manually through another registrar afterwards.

Anyways, I feel a little better knowing that I least got a few .US domains through BulkRegister...still though I lost a lot of .US domains in the process.
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Re: .US Sunrise Begins
by chong67 on Wednesday April 24 2002, @03:42PM (#5969)
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Its almost 1 day and yet I have not received any information for 8 of the registrars that I got the .us domain that I want.

How long does it take?

thanks!
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Re: .US Sunrise Begins
by dtobias (dan@tobias.name) on Thursday April 25 2002, @03:58AM (#5974)
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I tried to get screwed.us (and a few others of this sort) for use in creating subdomain addresses for protest sites, like Neustar.screwed.us or ICANN.screwed.us, but didn't manage to get any of them.
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Re: .US Sunrise Begins
by dtobias (dan@tobias.name) on Thursday April 25 2002, @05:24AM (#5977)
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Well, I think the fact that somebody can get a trademark on something as generic as .web, and then use it to get first shot at this as a .us domain, is a sign of how ridiculous the intellectual property system has gotten, but I do agree that it's better that those guys got .web.us instead of the various hangers-on who got most of the good names -- at least, they'll probably actually use it, perhaps to let all their current .web registrants have .web.us, though that wouldn't be very acceptable to non-U.S. registrants.
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Re: .US Sunrise Begins
by dtobias (dan@tobias.name) on Thursday April 25 2002, @05:18PM (#6005)
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I notice that toys-r.us has been registered, and apparently not to the famous toy store chain. Since they're vigorous about challenging or suing anybody who comes close to infringing on their "R-Us" names, you can expect this one to receive some sort of legal attack. Right now it just goes to a GoDaddy parked domain page.
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Re: .US Sunrise Begins
by Ron_Bennett on Wednesday April 24 2002, @08:13AM (#5959)
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I'm referring to the landrush phase. I see that this thread refers to sunrise...little late to be talking about that in my view...but anyways, perhaps icannwatch can add a new thread discussing the landrush.

In regards to sunrise, that part worked great...at least for my one sunrise app which has been registered since the 19th and is resolving properly.
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Its a good chance for us to see what IOD can do.
by Anthony on Wednesday April 24 2002, @11:43PM (#5972)
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I found ICANN to be biased against IOD. If it was not for Dr. Cerf having a trip of concience at the last moment, Afilias would be running .web now. The entire process seemed to be flawed perhaps even corrupt. Some of us were discussing Arthur Andersen's honesty well before Enron! (it was their recommendation that CORE companies were approved over IOD that was used against IOD even though CORE employed Arthur Andersen themselves). For five years (not since the beginning) I have watched IOD have an unfair run for their money. I have seen them blackballed by ICANN on many occasions. I have even seen ICANN choose to give .web to no one rather than swallow the pill and give it to IOD, while the Veresign / NSI monopoly grows bigger. ICANN has even changed its own by laws to protect itself from the votes of public opinion.

What I have not seen is IOD in action. I have not seen whether they can do all that they claim nor whether they are actually any good at running a TLD. .web.us is not perfect but it is a useful platform. If .web.us mirrors .web then essentially .web will become active in all but the small print - literally ready to be approved by ICANN. If it is the success that IOD claim it will be then ICANN will have little argument against IOD.

The .com shortage had been exacerbated by the pathetic inclusion of .aero .museum .biz and .info et al. and if one was being synical one could argue that the only benefit in rolling them out so very badly would be to benefit the established tld (which are of course run by the same people anyway). Certainly .info has taken nothing away from .com - I am not sure the same would have been true of .web.

One thing is clear. There is a need for more TLDs. There has been a .us land rush and quite simply, it would not have occurred if everyone was happy with the presnet TLDs.

The restiction of .web by ICANN is not acceptable (whoever runs it). There is no legitimate reason to withold it. If IOD can prove their worth with .web.us (rather than just turning it into a web page for example) then it will be hard to find an argument against them.
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Re: .US Sunrise Begins
by fnord (groy2kNO@SPAMyahoo.com) on Friday April 26 2002, @05:45AM (#6022)
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IOD vs IANA et al here, IOD vs CORE here. -g
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