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    Re: XTNS Launches Multilingual Internet Domains Wi
    by fnord (groy2kNO@SPAMyahoo.com) on Wednesday September 26 2001, @06:49AM (#2533)
    User #2810 Info
    One of a few hundred thousand MikeR's writes:
    Well, duh. Of course they wont work with the US Chrs Set. You have that basic knowledge of international character sets dont you? Did you expect to enter Chinese while in US English mode? Get your system set up right (as would any genuine buyer/user of an ML name), check them out and see they work.
    Oh I see. So I have to change my character set each time I wish to use a different language. There was no mention of this in your instructions to me, nor in the XTNS press release, nor do I see it mentioned on their website. Most of that 87% of internet users using IE 5.x (I think that figure is at least 10% too high judging from server logs on various sites) don't even know how to change their character sets. You don't have to do this with VeriSign's ML testbed, but you tell us they're identical. What's up with that?

    And in many cases this will require the user to download the relevant character set which takes considerably longer than downloading the new.net plugin, for example (this should not be taken as a ringing endorsement for new.net, but at least it works). Of that small percentage of 87 (or whatever) percent that know how to change charsets, what percentage of that percentage will know that they have to make the change if they're not even told it is necessary? User-friendly this is not.

    So they are charging a mere $5 to sift through by hand tens of thousands of applications?
    Tens of thousands? In your dreams. That is comparable to VeriSign ML numbers, and that is rife with speculators and cybersquatters. Even they're not dumb enough to fall for XTNS.
    And their sunrise policy is clear. Their names work.
    How does their sunrise handle competing trademark claims? And I'm not going to go through the trouble of changing charsets to see if they work.
    ...we have to hope you will start being fair with them at some point.
    Who's we? XTNS appears to be a one-person operation along with a couple of hangers-on on their message board. If you don't work for them, for some unknown reason you're volunteering to engage in uncritical hucksterism about a product that still doesn't work as advertised. I'm not asking that you/they live up to the outrageous claim that XTNS will rival VeriSign, but until I see some unrelated third party register an XTNS ML name and have it work via IE (without having to go through downloads and settings changes), and have it point to some actual content, not a redirect or registrar placeholder or for sale page, I'll class this as at least as much of a mess and scam as Afilias .info. Even if everything worked as advertised, Dan's criticisms are still well placed, both about non-compatible browsers, and about lack of functionality for other protocols, particular email. I suppose your answer to that will be that that is coming real soon now too. This is distinguishable from vaporware in what way exactly? -g
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    Re: XTNS Launches Multilingual Internet Domains Wi by fnord
    Re: XTNS Launches Multilingual Internet Domains Wi
    by Anonymous on Wednesday September 26 2001, @07:36AM (#2534)
    You flame people for being anon. They log in and your flame them for logging in. I and others will no doubt not log-in in future given your attitude and behavior on this board.

    So, one in several million fnords, you write:

    Oh I see. So I have to change my character set each time I wish to use a different language.

    Well erm fnord I hate to be the one to tell you this but that is how the Internet and web browsers work. You really think you can type in Chinese using your browser set to American English? Please, PLEASE get a clue. Even a basic one.

    You don't have to do this with VeriSign's ML testbed

    Wrong, wrong. You have to do exactly the same thing with the NSI testbed. Again, get a clue before you write, eh?

    Tens of thousands? In your dreams.

    First it is widely reported that NSI have registered over 900,000 IDNs -- and that data is a few months old. Second, XTNS exceeded 10,000 names on day-one of release yesterday from what I hear. So again, get a clue before you write.

    Who's we? XTNS appears to be a one-person

    What?! You are completely mad. Appears to "who" exactly? Steve Chadima who was writing out of spite and envy at the launch of XTNS by his ex-CTO? Didnt you read the many tens of corrections to Chadima's absurd statement? Good luck to you trying to get people to believe a multimillion $ enterprise like XTNS is just one person. lol

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