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    Terrorist Speculators or Tragedy Squatters or Topical Sites? You decide. | Log in/Create an Account | Top | 11 comments | Search Discussion
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    Wrong database
    by alexander on Tuesday September 25 2001, @03:52AM (#2501)
    User #22 Info | http://www.icannchannel.de
    This is now one of several attempts to argue against the allegations (note: I'm not saying they are true!) by looking up the current Whois database.

    To check whether the Livingstone allegations could be even remotely true, one would need old lists of dropping domains! Livingstone claims that the domain names mentioned had already expired: That's how he supposedly found out about them. He does not claim that they are in use by terrorists now. From the original CNS news article: "Adding a one-year registration period to the 60 to 90 day waiting period indicates that the addresses were probably originally registered between mid-June and mid-July of 2000."

    If someone has such lists and looks them up, fine. But looking at the current database doesn't make sense, if I understand the allegations correctly.

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    Re: Wrong database
    by Mueller ({mueller} {at} {syr.edu}) on Tuesday September 25 2001, @07:05AM (#2505)
    User #2901 Info | http://istweb.syr.edu/~mueller/
    I'm sorry, but the Livingstone story is such crap!
    It's obviously a publicity stunt intended to draw
    attention to himself. Terrorists who are carefully
    schooled in how not to draw attention to themselves in the USA registered English identifiers in a global public database announcing their plans and intentions. Yeah, right.

    How does he claim to have received notice of
    "expiring domains"? Oh, from "industry insiders" according to the ridiculous CNS news article. How
    convenient that the names all were timed to expire
    just days BEFORE the terrorist attack (deliberate? think of how much one has to know about DNS and registrar practices to control that - it's not plausible); how convenient that the "industry insiders," who had to have known about the expirations before the attack, did not make any record of these "expired domains" and had no knowledge of the attacks, but nevertheless happened to remember a whole series of them afterwards (pretty interesting, considering the tens of thousands of expiring domains any given week).

    I have dealt with several people who claim to be "counter-terrorism experts" in my life; all of them were right-wing nuts fascinated with weapons and fatigues and brimming full of swamp-fever conspiracy theories that all pointed in the direction of militarizing America for its own "security." Imagine a cross between Oliver North and G. Gordon Liddy and you get the picture.
    I don't know Livingston but he can either produce hard evidence (a WHOIS record, for example) or he gets classified with that bunch.
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