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    Re: Truth, lies and registry/registrar responsibil
    by Anonymous on Wednesday January 01 2003, @02:24AM (#10796)

    The case of YESNIC demonstrates really well the way the process was abused and ICANN stood by and just accepted it.


    Yesnic applied - in their own name - for 261 Sunrise names, for a wide range of the most popular generics. As suspected, these were later variously shown to be ineligible and fake by WIPO, but this was pointed out to Afilias at the time - in advance of Landrush, and they allowed Yesnic to abuse their own process.


    Not only that, but Yesnic have not been sanctioned by ICANN or Afilias as a result. They continue to trade in .info names. They remain accredited by ICANN.


    BUT THEY COMMITTED FRAUD


    This demonstrates so clearly the way the industry is allowed to police itself - or in this case, NOT police itself.


    It demonstrates the way "insiders" in the industry were allowed to abuse a process. It demonstrates how the Registry failed consumers effected by this abuse.


    And ICANN's position in the aftermath is fascinating. They continue to accredit Yesnic and tell the world these are people you can trust with your money. Along with many other cases of Registrar abuse of process, the Yesnic case has been presented by myself and others to Dan Halloran, responsible for ICANN-Registrar liaison.


    I sent Dan Halloran a list of concerns, both about the .info roll out and the .biz2B


    If anyone reads through this thread from various people it becomes obvious there WERE serious grounds for "concern".


    Remarkably, over 250 days later - and notwithstanding repeated copies sent to him, copies posted here at ICANNWatch and on the ICANN lists and forums, Dan Halloran has not even had the courtesy to acknowledge my mail.


    Elsewhere, he has been quoted in press interview as saying there was a "laissez faire" approach to registrar matters...


    The bottom line, hopefully to be demonstrated in court in the Jeff Davies case, is that honest customers were charged for a product that they would otherwise have had the right to participate in (the .info Landrush), had the registry, assorted registrars, and ICANN not allowed the process (which should have protected all) to be abused, exploited, and neglected to the tangible loss of many consumers.


    Those who broke the rules still trade with ICANN's seal of approval. It would be interesting to see how Afilias justify and explain all these cases of fraud, failure, and cheating... but the Report they were obliged to submit under Appendix U of their ICANN Agreement has never surfaced.


    Stuart Lynn says "There hasn't been time."


    In fact, it's nine months overdue.


    Just for further demonstration of the scale of the fraud, here are the 261 names "claimed" by YESNIC. How can they possibly justify this abuse of process, and why did Afilias just let the process collapse so unquestioningly (because from the point of view of the defrauded Landrush customers, it DID collapse):


    YesNIC Co., LTD. 001.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. 002.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. 003.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. 004.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. 005.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. 006.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. 007.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. 008.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. 009.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. 010.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. 011.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. 012.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. 013.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. 014.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. 015.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. 016.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. 017.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. 018.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. 019.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. 020.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. 021.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. 022.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. 023.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. 024.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. 025.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. 026.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. 027.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. 028.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. 029.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. 030.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. 070.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. 100.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. 1000.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. 10000.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. 1004.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. 112.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. 113.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. 114.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. 119.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. 1318.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. 200.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. 297.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. 300.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. 337.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. 386.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. 400.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. 4259.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. 600.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. 700.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. 777.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. 7942.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. 800.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. 8949.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. 900.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. agency.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. aloe.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. angel.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. animal.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. animation.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. audio.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. autocar.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. award.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. baduk.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. banner.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. bizking.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. book.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. booking.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. busan.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. cafe.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. campus.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. card.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. ceo.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. chasdaq.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. chatting.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. chip.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. chollian.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. chosun.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. cjpr.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. click.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. club.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. company.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. condo.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. consumer.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. cook.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. cosmetic.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. cpa.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. cto.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. cyber.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. cybermall.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. daegu.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. damoim.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. dancing.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. daum.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. dbdip.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. dentist.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. designer.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. diamond.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. domainbest.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. domainshop.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. domainwide.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. donga.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. doosan.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. doumi.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. dprk.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. drama.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. dream.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. dreamwiz.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. drug.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. ebrand.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. eccma.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. ecconsulting.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. economy.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. eground.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. emart.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. empas.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. ename.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. enames.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. english.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. enjoy.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. esellpia.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. file.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. fire.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. flower.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. food.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. form.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. fortress.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. forum.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. free.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. freeweb.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. fund.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. furniture.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. gift.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. gold.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. guide.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. hananet.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. handphone.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. hangame.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. hanhwa.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. hanmail.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. hansol.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. healthclub.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. highest.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. history.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. hobby.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. homepage.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. hospital.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. humor.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. hyundai.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. iname.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. inames.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. inmix.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. insu.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. interngo.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. internpo.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. intersumer.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. invest.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. investor.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. iroo.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. jasdaq.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. job.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. joy.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. kbs.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. kid.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. king.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. kiss.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. kosdaq.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. labor.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. land.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. lawyer.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. lesson.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. licence.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. license.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. life.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. lineage.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. logo.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. love.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. lowest.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. man.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. mba.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. mbc.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. med.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. media.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. meeting.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. menu.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. metadb.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. milk.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. mna.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. mobile.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. model.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. mothers.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. mountain.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. mouse.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. myhome.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. namecard.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. nasdaq.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. naver.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. newtech.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. onmarket.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. pet.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. pharm.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. photo.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. pizza.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. poem.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. poet.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. poets.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. policy.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. poll.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. portal.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. prize.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. quick.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. radio.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. reits.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. resolvenet.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. samsung.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. say.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. sbs.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. sec.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. seoul.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. server.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. sexy.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. singer.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. siteshop.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. skcorp.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. sktelecom.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. skylove.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. sobinet.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. song.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. specialist.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. standard.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. star.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. starcraft.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. stars.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. start.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. startup.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. stock.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. stoo.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. study.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. superboard.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. tex.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. toefl.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. toeic.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. trade.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. trademark.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. traffic.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. tutor.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. univ.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. ventureir.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. vname.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. vnames.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. voicename.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. voicenames.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. vote.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. wap.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. weather.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. whoisinmix.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. whoisnewtech.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. whoisnic.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. woman.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. worldcup.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. yesnic.info
    YesNIC Co., LTD. ytn.info



    Unbelievable!



    Richard Henderson


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