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    Re: Talk about Bad Faith...
    by Anonymous on Thursday January 24 2002, @05:11AM (#4714)
    While GEAC's trademark might not be that famous, consider this, what is the domain name at issue was cocacola.net, and it pointed to Pepsi's website? Or more likely, pointed to a Coke distributor. In such cases, clearly Mueller does not think that trademark owners should own these type of domain names, but rather, that domain name registrants have a legitimate right to use them even though the registrants are using another trademark for commercial purposes.

    I disagree with his view. GEAC might not be a very protectable mark, the facts were clear, Newtec used the domain name to point to its own site. Check out the search on Archive.org as proof: http://web.archive.org/web/20010608054549/www.reportingtools.com/index.asp.

    Newtec acted in bad faith, the majority saw it, the majority rules.
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    Re: Talk about Bad Faith...
    by dtobias (dan@tobias.name) on Thursday January 24 2002, @05:48AM (#4716)
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    While I agree with the dissenting opinion here that the majority, as usual for UDRP decisions, has stretched the policy to the breaking point in order to once again find in favor of a trademark holder, I also find somewhat questionable the motives of the respondent in using the domain name. If it's just used for internal use, there isn't really any point to getting a separate domain name, particularly one with another company's name in it; the purpose could better be served by using hostnames or subdomains within the respondent's own domain, which would not require any registration or renewal fees, not subject them to UDRP proceedings, and would organize their sites in a more logical structure.
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    Re: Talk about Bad Faith...
    by Anonymous on Thursday January 24 2002, @08:10AM (#4719)
    Recent UDRP panels, and parties to UDRP disputes, have used the Wayback Machine to demonstrate bad faith. The panel in this case did not use it, but if the panel had, it would have confirmed the complainant's argument that GEAC.net had been used in bad faith by NEWTEC. See here: http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://geac.net, and http://web.archive.org/web/20010608054549/www.reportingtools.com/index.asp.

    The NEWTEC content was available as early as June 8, 2001. This looks like bad faith, and in prior UDRP decisions, panels have found such use by competitors to be bad faith.

    This decision has received a lot of attention today, but there are other, far more questionable cases that people should direct their attention to.
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    Re: A Perfect example...
    by Anonymous on Friday January 25 2002, @12:25AM (#4725)
    Here is a perfect example of what the commenters above should be upset about: WIPO released a decision this morning in Case D2001-1340, located at http://arbiter.wipo.int/domains/decisions/html/2001/d2001-1340.html, for the domain name BookstoreManager.com. No response was filed. The panelist, Thomas D. Halket, granted transfer to the complainant anyway.

    The words "bookstore manager" are generic. This case is more like what Milton Mueller referred to as a "pissing match", and should not have been decided under the UDRP.
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