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    Books about country owned by government?
    by WIPOorgUK on Sunday December 22 2002, @11:16PM (#10648)
    User #3146 Info | http://wipo.org.uk/
    Domain names are NOT just for trademarks and countries - ask DNS creator Paul Mockapetris - normal people can use them also.

    The authorities hide solution to these problems, to enable the domains to be easily taken from owner.

    People choose domain names for many reasons.

    The domain name can be used to communicate title, or tell of subject, or give author.

    The domain name as title may be picked because it sounds good or is easy to remember.

    The domain name as subject would tell readers what they will find within.

    The authorities would have you believe that it is always the author.

    Countries and places give same false argument.

    If you wrote a book entitled 'South Africa', do the rights to this book belong to that countries government?

    As you know, the United Nations World Intellectual Property Organization deal with the conflict between domain names and trademarks.

    Most businesses share the same words - either with or without registering trademark. Take for example the word 'apple'. It is legally used by thousands of businesses - large and small all over the world. In my local phone book alone, there are at least five using this word - two garages (seems not connected), a car centre, fruit growers and a decorating firm.

    UN WIPO would not confirm or deny the simple solution when it was pointed out to them.

    You might ask, "Why not - surely they want it?"

    Trademark and Competition Law is being violated by big business - so money and power perhaps.

    Guess where UN WIPO get most their money?

    There is no doubt in my mind - the United Nations World Intellectual Property Organization and United States Department of Commerce are corrupt.

    Please visit WIPO.org.uk - no connection with corrupt United Nations WIPO.org !
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    Re: Congratulations on good comments and ignore th
    by rachelmacgregor on Monday December 23 2002, @01:14PM (#10671)
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    You have presented a fairly-reasoned argument and I agree with principles you put forward. If the word "apple" is a Trademark 35 times over in 35 different countries, then what the fuck gives ONE of those trademark holders the right to hi-jack the domain? And if someone else wants to write a website about eating apples, using the word "apple" in the domain name to draw attention logically to their subject, why the hell shouldn't they have the freedom to use their own language.

    All these problems might be eased if, as you have proposed previously Gerry, a TLD specifically for Trademarks (like .REG) was introduced. Then people would know that that was where you went for Trademarked/official websites. For the rest of the Internet, it should be open to all (providing they do not use names in bad faith) and names should NOT be reserved for Big Business.

    Now... some people may have intelligent alternative proposals or may not fully agree with yours...

    But how fucking disappointing that what we see in this thread is people not able to argue with you logically about your points and using the tactics of the gutter instead. Alas! They marginalise themselves! A lot of intelligent people read the posts on this valuable website, and the abuse directed against your points just about speaks for itself.

    I also object to the racism, that because you are a Brit, that in some way makes you more of a kook.

    Not a kook at all... good points... and on this website you have the freedom to express them. Of course, REAL kooks have the freedom to express themselves as well, but look at the actual content and decide for yourself who at least deserves a respectful and thoughtful response.

    ICANNwatch deserves thoughtful input like yours. It is only demeaned by brainless abuse with zero content and racist slurs.

    Rachel Macgregor
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    Anonymous Coward speaks again
    by WIPOorgUK on Monday December 23 2002, @03:32AM (#10653)
    User #3146 Info | http://wipo.org.uk/
    If same person - I remember your arguments do not have an ounce intelligence to them.

    At least use a handle so that I can see.

    Or are you a limp wristed coward?
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    Re: Oh shut up
    by dtobias (dan@tobias.name) on Monday December 23 2002, @05:10AM (#10656)
    User #2967 Info | http://domains.dan.info/
    His argument actually makes a lot of sense, though his habit of posting the same canned spiel verbatim over and over in every forum does make him look like a bit of a NetKook [tm].
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    Facts
    by WIPOorgUK on Monday December 23 2002, @06:46AM (#10659)
    User #3146 Info | http://wipo.org.uk/
    You have no reasoned argument to counter logically derived facts - have you?

    I will not get into flame war with you - I refuse to fight with the intellectually challenged.

    Anyhow, the reader will decide who is kook.

    If Dan (dtobias) has any suggestion on how to present basic facts - without it sounding like verbatim canned spiel - I would be grateful.

    There is very little you can do to dress up facts.
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