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    Re: Update on Blokzijl's possible conflict of inte
    by fnord (groy2kNO@SPAMyahoo.com) on Monday May 20 2002, @12:05AM (#6450)
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    Rob Blokzijl transcript
    by fnord (groy2kNO@SPAMyahoo.com) on Monday May 20 2002, @06:58AM (#6453)
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    Kent Crispin has given the entire text of Blokzijl's .org comments here. I reproduce it below, for easier reading I've removed the ALLCAPS found in the original and Kent Crispin's copy.

    Robert Blokzijl: Yeah, I want not so much to comment on the proposed text.

    I want to make clear that the Board and Staff understand the fact that this is different from creating a new top-level domain.

    So we don't have much freedom.

    I'm talking from a technical point of view.

    Whoever is going to run dot org in the near future inherits an existing user base of about 3 million people and organizations, some of them individual persons, some of them large organizations that are really dependent upon the proper operation of dot org. Just To name one, the International Red Cross today could not do its work without the registry dot org.
    Robert Blokzijl: Icann, maybe.

    There is always icann.nl.

    Which is reserved for Icann, by the way.

    So there are not many organizations that have a demonstrated experience in running a registry with 3 million registered names.

    A registry which has about 10, 12 servers scattered around the world on crucial spots of the internet.

    This is a little bit more than running a country code top-level domain, for instance.
    Robert Blokzijl: A word from the past.

    Dot org was created at the same time as dot com.

    Dot com was for commercial entities and dot org for noncommercial organizations, not-for-profit organizations.

    And we should have learned from the fact that in an internet space that was incredibly more simple ten years ago than it is today, even then it was not possible to draw a clear line.

    And the current state of affairs is that there are about close to 30 million registrations in the dot com and about 3 million under dot org.

    Under Dot com you will find, i'm sure, if you do an analysis, a lot more commercial activities than under dot org, but you will find non-profits under dot com and you will find profits under dot org.

    The second point is i think in any individual country in the world, it is very difficult to give a proper definition of what is a not-for-profit organization.

    So doing this on the international level, it's an impossible task.

    So less rules are better than more rules, i would say.
    Robert Blokzijl: Yeah, I understand the concerns. But, again, look at the history.

    There are about 30 million dot com names and about 3 million dot orgs.

    So the vast majority of the commercial world is not interested in protecting their name under dot org. So other people can use names which otherwise might be contested.

    This is how I interpret the vast difference in numbers of registrations.
    Robert Blokzijl: I would leave it open.
    Robert Blokzijl: Yeah. I am more interested in good services.

    And that's it. Some found the last minute change to the DNSO's recommendations surprising, Rob Blokzijl's sudden display of verbosity is no less surprising, particularily as it doesn't seem to be very accurate. Jefsey Morphin has since pointed out some of the factual errors in Blokzijl's history lesson. Also, aso.icann.org was down earlier so I didn't then mention that, while Rob Blokzijl's term as an ICANN Director chosen by the Address Supporting Organization runs out on September 30, 2002, he's been nominated for re-election. -g

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    Re: Update on Blokzijl's possible conflict of inte
    by fnord (groy2kNO@SPAMyahoo.com) on Thursday May 23 2002, @03:43AM (#6480)
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    Rumor has it, 80 more layoffs at NeuStar. -g
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