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    Re: ICANN and CENTR at odds
    by fnord (groy2kNO@SPAMyahoo.com) on Wednesday January 09 2002, @01:58PM (#4524)
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    Coverage on this from silicon.com. -g
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    more from silicon.com
    by fnord (groy2kNO@SPAMyahoo.com) on Wednesday January 09 2002, @05:24PM (#4525)
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    Here and here. ICANN seems suddenly and uncharacteristically opposed to lawyers controlling the namespace. -g
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    Re: ICANN and CENTR at odds
    by Jon_Weinberg on Thursday January 10 2002, @06:00AM (#4526)
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    The articles in silcon.com, for which fnord provides links above, are well worth reading. According to silicon.com, CENTR
    ccTLDs are unwilling to remit their ICANN-designated payments unless ICANN enters into binding service level
    agreements, covering root zone maintenance, under which it would be subject to actual cash damages if it didn't
    perform up to spec. ICANN, the articles continue, is unwilling to go along. Says Stuart Lynn: "We're not going to talk
    about contracts. Our lawyers have advised that it would open us up to liability, which we are not prepared to do."
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    Re: ICANN and CENTR at odds
    by fnord (groy2kNO@SPAMyahoo.com) on Friday January 11 2002, @05:50AM (#4530)
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    Coverage from ComputerWorld. Funny that ICANN takes unto itself the responsibility for security and stability of the internet addressing system (to the temporary exclusion of all else), but when it comes to actually accepting that responsibility in a legal sense it would rather run and hide. -g
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    Re: ICANN and CENTR at odds
    by Anonymous on Saturday January 12 2002, @06:28AM (#4570)
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    Re: ICANN and CENTR at odds
    by Anonymous on Sunday January 13 2002, @02:45PM (#4592)
    Peter Mott (.aq)

    I am just looking for a signal that ICANN/IANA is here to represent the needs of its customers, being the operators of the name server networks, as opposed to simply just being a part of administrative process.

    Stuart Lynn
    I think you could see that we are putting a lot of focus on improving services. We are trying to improve as much as we can. I am not going to guarantee something that is not under our control.

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    Re: ICANN and CENTR at odds
    by Anonymous on Sunday January 13 2002, @03:02PM (#4593)

    The game remains the same, the 13 (?) root server
    operators take no responsibility because they can
    point to ICANN and say "we follow ICANN advice".

    ICANN takes no responsibility because they say,
    "We just give advice, we can not control what the
    root server operators do."

    Who are the root server operators ?

    Network Solutions of course (i.e. Verisign and SAIC)

    Nominum (Paul Vixie and David Conrad) who operates the .INFO TLD and also operates the
    IN-ADDR.ARPA under contract from ARIN where
    David Conrad is on the Board and the President
    of ARIN comes from SAIC (i.e. Network Solutions)

    Jun Murai the ICANN Board Squatter from Japan

    Some U.S. government sites and academics

    The game has not changed. Postel played the
    same game. Under the Postel regime, David Conrad
    ran APNIC from Japan, selling IP addresses to
    the Pacific Rim ISPs.

    Europe has been somewhat immune from much
    of the insider deal making. CENTR could have been
    a much more effective ICANN, with RIPE as a
    better example. That of course did not sit well
    with the folks in California and Washington, D.C.
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]


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