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    Re: Please, No More TLDs...
    by IcannWatcher on Friday December 06 2002, @09:28PM (#10452)
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    There're probably going to be new tlds but they most probably are not going to be unrestricted gTlds; the time for this baby has run out. They're already talking about taxonomic models for DNS. Also, a new gTLD like .WEB would just be a repeat of .NET, which is not that successful even though run by the same registry as .com. So an argument that a better run registry would somehow make such a tld successful does not make sense. And, if this .WEB thing ever get its way into the official ICANN root system, one of the conditions will/should be that ALL the names be available to anyone who qualifies; the public/businesses will/should not be deprived of the prime names registered by .WEB speculators before the fact (it becoming an official tld). How would that be for fairness and open market competition?
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    Re: Please, No More TLDs... by IcannWatcher
    Re: Please, No More TLDs...
    by Anonymous on Saturday December 07 2002, @04:30AM (#10453)
    "a new gTLD like .WEB would just be a repeat of .NET"

    Verisign has no motivation to influence or promote participation with .NET, especially away from .COM. It's a lame duck contract. They would only be assisting today some future competitor tomorrow....not a real wise allocation of resources.
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    Re: Please, No More TLDs...
    by Anonymous on Saturday December 07 2002, @06:53AM (#10457)
    Thankfully, you're not in charge of competition laws. You're obviously also not an economist.
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    Yours is that specious argument, yet again.
    by Anonymous on Saturday December 07 2002, @07:36AM (#10459)

    Another nonsensical call for the deletion of current .WEB registrations. If IOD is approved as the .WEB registry for the Legacy root, and the .WEB registrations currently in existence are cancelled, that would be a breach of contract between IOD and its registrants. Quite illegal.

    Furthermore, ICANN cannot demand such an erasure of the databases for ICANN is not the vendor. IOD is. They simply do not function as the wholesaler. They function merely as the so-called technical gatekeeper.

    Additionally, your claim that .WEB registrants have registered their .WEB domains for resale is unsubstantiated. You have no evidence, except for two or three registrants that have put up a for sale sign in the whois. This represents an insignificant number if you've ever gone through the databases, and not exactly the most coveted names.

    Which registrants are speculating? Which are not? Do you delete everyone from the registry because a percentage are speculators? Are you willing to do that with .COM, .NET, .ORG, .TV, .CC, .INFO, .BIZ, .US, etc?

    Furthermore, even if every IOD registrant is indeed a speculator, there is no law or policy against such activity either in the gTLD industry or in others. So any database wipe done on the grounds of the preemption of speculation would be, again, quite illegal.

    Do you really think that .WEB WON'T be a TLD with speculators if the database as it currently stands is deleted? At least the original registrants registered with the awareness that there was not a 100 percent guarantee that IOD would be approved. If a clean .WEB registry was opened up, there would be far more speculators jumping on board than had jumped on board in 1996.

    When .WEB was opened up in 1996, speculators, as such, were not really an issue in the domain market. Hence, the original .WEB registrants are less likely to be speculators than any registrants that come along hereafter. Business.COM didn't sell until 1999. Prior to that, speculation wasn't much of a concept.

    Seems to me there is a greater collection of legitimate registrations in existence right now than would be represented by any new nameholders for the already-registered .WEB domains.

    But what do you care of any of this? You want to get your hands on your choice .WEB domains so you can sell them yourself.

    Incidentally, your notion of "an official TLD" is flawed. Is a TLD any less legitimate just because it is not in the Legacy root? Is a private business less legitimate than one sponsored by the government? .WEB already exists in a root. The infrastructure of the registry exists. The domains of that registry are available in an existing root system. Now it's simply a matter of enabling the Legacy root to resolve those names as well.






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