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    Re: A Tale of Two Policies: Competing Roots in ICA
    by Anonymous on Monday September 03 2001, @07:04PM (#2182)
    It is likely that the desire of corporations and other large entities to manage the handling (and expense) of their outgoing calls will result in these entities establishing their own ENUM DNS trees. These trees may be in the form of a DNS root or simply a subtree depending on the configuration capabilities of the particular telephone equipment being used.

    In other words, unlike the situation in DNS in which we may have a number of competing roots numbered in the dozens, in ENUM we may readily have hundreds of thousands, or more, distinct ENUM trees.



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    Re: A Tale of Two Policies: Competing Roots in ICA
    by Anonymous on Monday September 03 2001, @07:57PM (#2183)
    This is about as far from consensus as I can imagine. Does anyone really believe after the events of the past five years that Verisign leads with consensus? What is really going on in this particular game is the national dial plan folks versus the entrepreneurs, with both being partly wrongheaded and both spending lots of lobbying dollars in the usual places.

    This also doesn't have much to do with roots in the DNS sense. ENUM is a bridge mechanism between the PSTN worldwide and the DNS. Why do we care? Because e164.arpa is an open, non-proprietary standard for getting from one world to the other.
    Verisign wants, in the name of good old American free enterprise, the right to a proprietary standard through which they can "add value" [read "exact a drawbridge tax"] on those of us trying to get connected.

    Thanks, but I'll take my chances with the system designed by the IETF.
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    Re: A Tale of Two Policies: Competing Roots in ICA
    by joppenheimer on Tuesday September 04 2001, @06:20AM (#2191)
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    You say "The final position was a true product of "consensus" - i.e., it was acceptable to all parties."

    Not really. AT&T and Verizon both stated, quite vehemently, that they will do whatever it takes to counter what they see as harmful in the US position (or in the case of Verizon, what's missing from the US position - number and service integrity, specifically denied inclusion in the US position because of the FCC-regulating-VoIP ramifications. The US Delegation displayed a severe case of throw-out-the-baby-with-the-bathwater syndrome.)

    I don't disagree with your conclusion, as processes go. But were VeriSign (and SAIC, both on NetNumber's board of directors) not the dissenters I don't know that the "minority opinion" would have received as much attention. This was clear on the last SGA teleconference, the delegation audibly showing deference to the VeriSign representative during the meeting.

    That said, the hypocrisy of VeriSign pining for an open market and unrestrained competition makes me queasy.

    Its worth remembering that we're talking telephone numbers in, domain names out. Let's not forget which "unaccountable amateurs" regulate domain names.
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