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    Re: XTNS, RealNames, and internationalized domains
    by Anonymous on Wednesday September 05 2001, @10:07AM (#2220)
    OK, Let's tally up the score CORRECTLY this time! (and NO I have no relationship with XTNS at all -- I just hate seeing people like you state lies on message boards):

    XTNS claims to be available to 88% of net users.
    True [X ] False [ ]
    XTNS's SYSTEM (not any given name, its SYSTEM) is accessible to over 88% of net users and that is a clear and proven fact.

    XTNS claims to be selling domain names.
    True [ ] False [X]
    Yes false -- XTNS NEVER CLAIMED TO SELL "DOMAIN NAMES" Check their site. You are just plain wrong here and have been all along.

    XTNS denies that XTNS people are posting here.
    True [ ] False [X ]
    Yes, FALSE -- XTNS themselves never said they didn't post here. I was the person who said that and I later corrected myself when I saw a total of 3 (out of over 100!) posts that look as if they were from an XTNS rep. But all the others -- including mine -- are NOT from XTNS or on their formal behalf.

    XTNS denies that clients are upset.
    True [ ] False [X]
    XTNS has NEVER denied it has any upset clients. I cannot see a single post here or on their site denying this. This is a deliberate slight on XTNS that you have invented and tried to perpetuate. Again, are you relying on something I or someone else here posted? Someone other than XTNS? It seems so ...

    XTNS claims to have owned xtns.com for 5 months.
    True [ ] False [X]
    FALSE - -XTNS themselves have never responded or commented on this issue. An anonymous poster did and their comments (if true) make yours seem foolish and purile. It is highly likely that they have owned it for the past 5 months and still the WhoIs not be updated properly. I have had that problem half a dozen times myself.

    XTNS says it is IDENTICAL to the VeriSign ML testbed.
    True [X ] False [ ]
    TRUE -- it is identical in all key respects-- the concession (which was by ME not by anyone at XTNS) was sarcastic if you didnt realize. I was merely saying that the only difference is that XTNS is operating the system for real and not as a test bed. Other than that point in XTNS's favor, the systems are identical and based on XTNS's intellectual property (as I understand).

    XTNS says names are working on August 15.
    True [ ] False [X]
    False -- XTNS never said a single word was working on August 15 -- they made clear they would start working later in September. You invented this lie to try to make them look bad.

    XTNS says repeatedly since then (and as recently as today) that names are working.
    True [ ] False [X]
    XTNS never said their names are working -- certainly not "today". Again, are you referring to posts I have made? If so, I am not XTNS. All I have seen is claims by me and by other posters that the SYSTEM is clearly working as you can see it on the Verisign testbed (you can also see it working on the .jp new multilingual name site too).

    XTNS claims to be above par for the industry.
    True [ ] False [ ]
    I cant be bothered to check but I suspect this statement was made by another poster and not by anyone in XTNS. Big deal if it was by XTNS, no point of relevence here.

    XTNS (or someone claiming not to be XTNS, meaning it probably is) claims to be extremely dumb and extremely rich.
    True [X] False [ ]
    Again, I was joking. (Or was I?)

    So the score so far is:

    Boris 0
    XTNS 9
    Me, at least 1 ... perhaps more.

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    Re: XTNS, RealNames, and internationalized domains by Anonymous
    Re: XTNS, RealNames, and internationalized domains
    by dtobias (dan@tobias.name) on Wednesday September 05 2001, @10:42AM (#2225)
    User #2967 Info | http://domains.dan.info/
    XTNS claims to be selling domain names.
    True [ ] False [X]
    Yes false -- XTNS NEVER CLAIMED TO SELL "DOMAIN NAMES" Check their site. You are just plain wrong here and have been all along.

    I have checked their site. Perhaps you haven't? The big headline there is:

    Revolutionary New Internet Domain Names...

    Of course, the remainder of the site indicates that the XTNS people lack a clue about just what a "domain name" actually is, evidenced by the animated promo on the front page that says:

    Why have your Internet domain name look like this???


    when it can look like this...

    Of course, neither the "before" nor the "after" items in the above example are "domain names". The first one is a full URL, which includes a protocol, a hostname (which includes a domain name), and a path. The second one is an XTNS keyword string.

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    Re: XTNS, RealNames, and internationalized domains
    by fnord (groy2kNO@SPAMyahoo.com) on Wednesday September 05 2001, @11:07PM (#2237)
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    Another point for the good guys for such a lame post. Do you want to play again? -g
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    Re: XTNS, RealNames, and internationalized domains
    by fnord (groy2kNO@SPAMyahoo.com) on Thursday September 06 2001, @10:43PM (#2258)
    User #2810 Info
    Errr, mister killer.web, time to go to sleep now. The internet revolution is over. Be thankful you still have your head (and I could make so many jokes of that I won't even start). -g
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