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    Re: Show me one working name ? ? ?
    by Anonymous on Saturday September 01 2001, @05:16AM (#2099)
    First of all the guys at XTNS are anything but clueless. They are seasoned veterans who know as much if not more about the DNS than most techies involved with Internet infrastructure. DNS as it stands is rigid and counter-intuitive, and unforgiving. XTNS's namespaces are well thoughtout to address these issues in a methodical manner.

    The namespaces are entirely logical and really only ever read one direction (if you think about it ...) THe core aim of the company is to launch corporate and brand namespaces such as "anything.corpname". However, those are costly spaces, and the launch of their recent "Open" spaces addresses this issue -- they only look like reverse TLDs. Take a name space "anything.corpname" and sell parts of it and you get (using the most common 3LDs as your guide) "store.corpname", "corp.corpname" and I would guess coming up would be the likes of "web.corpname", "news.corpname" and so forth. In this way an entity can buy either is entire own domain, or some part of it.

    This system sits on top of DNS without breaking it. The design is meant to take away the unforgiving and confusing aspects of DNS without endangering existing stability. Thus, lengthy impossible to recall URLs are replaced with simple alterates such as "camry.toyota" that in a real sense are like Windows sitting on top of DOS (believe me, in 5 years time the current DNS will be "DOS" to what we will then call the "Windows" of the Internet and will be seen as overly techie and clunky). And rigid unforgiving URLs (one character wrong and you get a 404 error etc) with extremely forgiving namespaces -- if your customer makes a typing error in an XTNS namespace then they still reach your web server and you can try to help them reach their intended destination. Hence "camry.toyota" and "camery.toyota" and "thatnewcaryouadvertised.toyota" can all get to the same page -- impossible with regular (unenhanced) DNS. And yes I know they have to be able to spell what is to the right of the dot, but hey I bet XTNS are working on that too!

    As to ftp, email, etc they have stated they even have solutions for those in the works to. Give them a chance, they are only a couple of weeks old in terms of their first public appearance!
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    Re: Show me one working name ? ? ? by Anonymous
    Re: Show me one working name ? ? ?
    by fnord (groy2kNO@SPAMyahoo.com) on Saturday September 01 2001, @06:24AM (#2101)
    User #2810 Info
    XTNS sold themselves as being available to 80+ % of net users in a press release two weeks ago. Now from their message board (which wasn't working yesterday), I learn that the names aren't working yet, but will real soon now. I have also tried names without success using IE 5.5 and with RealNames working. XTNS is therefore available to approximately 0% of net users even if spelled correctly. I'd call that a joke, consumer protection branches of governments might have different words for it. -g
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    Re: Show me one working name ? ? ?
    by dtobias (dan@tobias.name) on Saturday September 01 2001, @09:01AM (#2110)
    User #2967 Info | http://domains.dan.info/
    Actually, the regular DNS does have the ability to handle mistypings, via "wildcard" DNS records. The new .museum domain plans to use this, as explained in this section of its ICANN agreement:

    A DNS wildcard A record will be placed at the end of the .museum zone file as,

    *.museum. IN A nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn

    where nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn is the IP address of a host with the reserved name:


    This name is reserved for a host operated by the Sponsor that will parse a domain name that is directed to it and use the second-level label as a query string to return to the user (a) an ordered listing of all entities sharing that second-level domain label or, if the second-level label is not registered in the .museum TLD, by (b) a response indicating that the SLD label is not in use. If the Registry Operator divides the .museum TLD into multiple zones, an identical wildcard will be placed at the end of each such zone file.

    As for XTNS names like camry.toyota being better than subdomains like camry.toyota.com, actually, the unsophisticated user that you seem to be aiming for wouldn't be likely to recognize the former as an Internet address, since it lacks a TLD like .com at the end. Thus, the latter form might actually be more recognizable to them, since it has the "right" ending.

    As for email, etc... yeah, they've got some proposed clunky scheme to let people do something resembing email, but through the MSIE browser, not the user's actual email program. Now, will you ever be able to ping or traceroute a XTNS address???
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