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    Re: XTNS, RealNames, and internationalized domains
    by fnord (groy2kNO@SPAMyahoo.com) on Tuesday September 04 2001, @08:09PM (#2216)
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    You are quite right Dan, as usual. :)

    It just erks [sic] me that these cheerleaders are either registrars (and I use that term loosely) or speculating registrants. You see the same people here, on Afternic.com, at IOD, at new.net, on the ICANN forums, etc. posting drivel. They are those who buy names to resell (and as most of them don't sell, to hoard them), convinced that but for ICANN they would be making a fortune, that somehow ICANN has taken the wind out of the sales in the buyers market. ICANN can be justly accused of many things but that isn't one of them.

    They are joined in this by some registrars of both ICANN's, and others', domain names (and that is becoming an extremely loose term), who are happy to promise the world and not deliver. Thankfully, finally, most people are getting it. Afternic is a virtual ghost town and most of the earlier posters on other boards have disappeared. I may be giving them too much credit and it is just that the one year renewal on their names came up and they decided against continuing to flog deadhorse.com, but the end result is the same. Much of the rest of the net hype has long since crashed back to reality, it's past time for the namespace to do the same. Unfortunately some of the less clueless speculators have gone on up the foodchain to the big leagues and become registrars making absurd claims, but that at least is within the reach of the FTC (though they seem to have synchronized their watches with XTNS) and ICANN (though they aren't watching at all). Nevertheless, without end customers buying names speculators stop buying names, so the registrars will be dealt with eventually by those market forces one hears about.

    Oh the one hand I feel sorry for these folks who have bought into a dream that is turning into a nightmare. OTOH they have brought nothing to the table except a bit of cash to pass up the foodchain via the registrars to ICANN, and a dubious ability to invent sLD strings (as often as not silly strings) before anyone else. They are motivated by greed and that is not the motivation that built the net, on the contrary, that is why it is stagnating. This has served ICANN well as all critics are then tarred with the same brush. ICANN's power elite are given a ready made horde at the gates to point out to Congress, the BoD (because that isn't the power elite), the press, et al. For example, I consider it quite possible that IOD would have been awarded .web but for the continuous stream of nutbar postings by IOD .web registrants on ICANN's forum, assuming the BoD read them (a big assumption I admit, there is no sign they do normally, but the power elite would have been happy to ensure that). The sad thing is these hoarders are their own worst enemy, and worse than useless to non-hoarders who wish to provide an unmuddied alternative to the present ICANN.

    But, as I've said too often now, ;) you're right. This thread should be left to fall off the main page and into further irrelevance, the chance of XTNS making money here now is at most zero. -g

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    Re: XTNS, RealNames, and internationalized domains by fnord
    by dtobias (dan@tobias.name) on Wednesday September 05 2001, @01:11AM (#2218)
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