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    Re: Show me one working name ? ? ?
    by dtobias (dan@tobias.name) on Saturday September 01 2001, @02:17AM (#2098)
    User #2967 Info | http://domains.dan.info/
    This "XTNS" thing is just yet another example of what's rampant on the Internet these days. First, the techie geeks create a system (DNS in this case) capable of expressing complex hierarchical structures. Then, the clueless newbies and the marketing types who pander to them fail to understand or appreciate this structure, so they treat DNS like it's a flat namespace ending in .com. Finally, in the third act of this play, some other marketing type comes in with a "revolutionary" new scheme that does just what the original system did, only in a greatly inferior way -- but, unlike the open standards-based method developed by the geeks in Act 1, this way is proprietary and involves everybody sending lots of money to the marketing type in charge of it. "Reinventing the wheel" can be profitable if it lets you get a patent on it...

    I've run into many examples of this sort of "three-act play", in areas ranging from domain names to Web browser features. After Web designers succeeded in disabling or overriding practically every feature of HTML , HTTP, or browsers, originally designed to make Web pages able to flexibly adapt to the user's needs, a market then developed for proprietary "solutions" that reinvented, in a much clumsier and more awkward way, some of the features that were there in the first place but were ignored or disabled.

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    Re: Show me one working name ? ? ? by dtobias
    Re: Show me one working name ? ? ?
    by fnord (groy2kNO@SPAMyahoo.com) on Saturday September 01 2001, @06:24AM (#2101)
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    XTNS sold themselves as being available to 80+ % of net users in a press release two weeks ago. Now from their message board (which wasn't working yesterday), I learn that the names aren't working yet, but will real soon now. I have also tried names without success using IE 5.5 and with RealNames working. XTNS is therefore available to approximately 0% of net users even if spelled correctly. I'd call that a joke, consumer protection branches of governments might have different words for it. -g
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    Re: Show me one working name ? ? ?
    by dtobias (dan@tobias.name) on Saturday September 01 2001, @09:01AM (#2110)
    User #2967 Info | http://domains.dan.info/
    Actually, the regular DNS does have the ability to handle mistypings, via "wildcard" DNS records. The new .museum domain plans to use this, as explained in this section of its ICANN agreement:


    A DNS wildcard A record will be placed at the end of the .museum zone file as,

    *.museum. IN A nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn

    where nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn is the IP address of a host with the reserved name:

    directory.museum

    This name is reserved for a host operated by the Sponsor that will parse a domain name that is directed to it and use the second-level label as a query string to return to the user (a) an ordered listing of all entities sharing that second-level domain label or, if the second-level label is not registered in the .museum TLD, by (b) a response indicating that the SLD label is not in use. If the Registry Operator divides the .museum TLD into multiple zones, an identical wildcard will be placed at the end of each such zone file.


    As for XTNS names like camry.toyota being better than subdomains like camry.toyota.com, actually, the unsophisticated user that you seem to be aiming for wouldn't be likely to recognize the former as an Internet address, since it lacks a TLD like .com at the end. Thus, the latter form might actually be more recognizable to them, since it has the "right" ending.

    As for email, etc... yeah, they've got some proposed clunky scheme to let people do something resembing email, but through the MSIE browser, not the user's actual email program. Now, will you ever be able to ping or traceroute a XTNS address???
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