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    Re: ICANN Executive Committee Votes Funds to GAC
    by Anonymous on Tuesday August 13 2002, @01:22PM (#8468)
    On a per word generated basis, as well as on the hot air value, ICANN is getting a great return on $75,000! I don't know of any group that comes as close to the GAC's ability to travel around the world, hold closed meetings, and create volumes of empty phrases.
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      Twomey's role is the real issue here
      by Anonymous on Wednesday August 14 2002, @12:08PM (#8481)
      All the right questions about this remarkable development are asked in the last paragraph of Michael's article.

      What exactly is Paul Twomey's status with GAC? He has not been elected by the GAC as a whole. He hangs on as "chair" of the GAC despite not having an official position, indeed, having been explicitly renounced by the Australian government.

      I don't think it is the Australian government that is being reimbursed, it may be Twomey himself.

      ICANN management is keeping him in place because he provides total support for their agenda. He and his girlfriend Karen Rose....


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    Re: ICANN Executive Committee Votes Funds to GAC
    by hofjes on Wednesday August 14 2002, @11:05AM (#8479)
    User #60 Info
    ICANN loves the GAC. When looking at redelegation reports, the factor most heavily weighed (in fact, almost exclusively weighed) is compliance with GAC Principles. However, the board never adopted the GAC principles. The GAC principles is just a document by an advisory panel to which the ICANN staff always defers.

    The ultimate query relevant to this thread is why ICANN is so deferential to the GAC. What is Paul Twomey’s role? What should the GAC role be? I think it should be merely advisory.
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    Re: ICANN Executive Committee Votes Funds to GAC
    by rhill on Friday August 16 2002, @05:12AM (#8537)
    User #3320 Info | http://www.itu.int/ITU-T/
    The following is posted at:

    http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg03427.html

    A number of questions have been asked and comments made regarding the ICANN
    Board's recent decision to fund partly, for a limited period of time, the
    GAC secretariat and chair functions, see

    http://www.icann.org/minutes/prelim-report-13aug02.htm

    The following information, which is based on what I know, may answer some of
    the questions that have been raised.

    At the Accra meeting 11-12 March 2002, the Chair of GAC, Paul Twoomey,
    stated:

    "... the Chair advised that he will be resigning effective from the end of
    the Shanghai meeting and the Australian Government will cease providing the
    Secretariat function at the end of the Bucharest meeting."

    The issue of replacing the GAC Secretariat was discussed at the 9-10 April
    GAC meeting in Bruxelles and the 3-4 June GAC meeting in Canberra.

    At both those meetings, some GAC members, and in particular ITU, offered to
    provide some secretariat services as in-kind support for GAC. Specifically,
    ITU offered to provide the basic secretariat support for meetings, at no
    cost to ICANN or to GAC (since the costs are already covered by ITU's
    participation).

    These offers were noted but not discussed. It was noted that a global
    discussion of the nature and role of the GAC secretariat should take place
    in the context of ICANN reform.

    The GAC meeting in Bucharest was essentially focussed on preparing comments
    on the recently-published Blueprint for Reform. At the very end of the
    meeting, at 3am, Paul Twoomey announced that Australia had reversed its
    previous decision to stop funding the Chair and the Secretariat and was
    willing to fund both the Chair and the Secretariat for an interim period.
    As a consequence, the Chair announced that Australia would continue to
    provide the Secretariat.

    I am informed that subsequently the Australian government informed ICANN
    that it would be willing to perform the role of GAC Secretariat, but
    indicated that it would no longer fund that role. I am informed that the
    Australian government subsequently raised with ICANN the issue of finding
    alternative sources of funding.

    As noted in previous E-Mails, the Board made a decision to provide up to
    $75'000 dollars to the Australian goverment, to cover actual costs of chair
    and secretariat services for a limited period of time.

    I am informed that a draft budget for this funding, for the period 1 July to
    15 November, is being prepared by the GAC Secretariat and will be circulated
    to the GAC membership.

    Best,
    Richard
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      Re: ICANN Executive Committee Votes Funds to GAC
      by fnord (groy2kNO@SPAMyahoo.com) on Friday August 16 2002, @07:22AM (#8548)
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      That's very interesting, and telling. BTW, I think it is Twomey, not Twoomey, or is that the Australian spelling? What's up with that Aussie government anyway?

      They hijack the .au domain, become the first ccTLD to sign ICANN's pay and obey contract, and bring in a version of the UDRP which greatly increases complainant rights (whilst elsewhere, eg: elsewhere in the Commonwealth like .ca and .uk, the trend is to bring in versions of the UDRP more weighted towards the rights of the respondent).

      Twomey, who was appointed by the BoD to serve as Chair of the GAC in 1999, seems to have left public service. So how can he remain a GAC member, let alone Chair, when the BoD voted a few months later in 1999 regarding GAC membership:

      The accredited representative of a Member must hold a formal official position with the Member's public administration. The term "official" includes a holder of an elected governmental office, or a person who is employed by such government, public authority or multinational governmental or treaty organization and whose primary function with such government, public authority or organization is to develop or influence governmental or public policies.
      Ironically, they inserted that clause at the urging of Paul Twomey. On his assumption of office, ICANN quoted Twomey as saying:
      The role of the GAC is a significant element of ICANN, [a]nd I acknowledge that ICANN's invitation for me to chair the GAC is a great compliment to Australia's role to date in the Internet reform process. In my position as Chairman, I will endeavour to ensure that the principles affirmed by ICANN, which are those of fairness and transparency of policy and procedure, are upheld, and that these principles are exercised to the maximum extent feasible.
      Well, we've seen what a great job he's done of that so far. Presumably they're now paying him because he at least has a proven ability to speak ICANNese. -g
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    Something Else Used to Be Here
    by michael (froomkin@lawUNSPAM.tm) on Friday August 16 2002, @10:08AM (#8557)
    User #4 Info | http://www.discourse.net/
    Consistent with the policies described in our FAQ, I've deleted an annonymous post that was (borderline) libelous. Due to the quirks of our software this results in deleting the two replies.

    Here is the text of the deted posts, with one line removed.

    Conspiracy? (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 14 @ 17:34:18 MDT

    Something is fishy here.


    Paul Twomey is [FIVE WORDS DELETED HERE -MF] He is partners with Ira Magaziner who is responsible for the white paper giving rise to ICANN (and ultimately approving of ICANN as newco).

    Twomey controls the GAC. ICANN staff defers to the GAC as if the GAC were the board of directors.

    Now, ICANN authorizes $75k to GAC, which inevitably will be paid to Twomey and Magaziner.

    What's the real deal?

    Re: Conspiracy? (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Thursday, August 15 @ 07:16:50 MDT
    Given that Twomey is no longer employed by the Australian government nor does he represent the Australian government in the GAC, one has to ask why he is involved at all???

    Perhaps ICANN decided ... (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Thursday, August 15 @ 14:24:54 MDT
    That the best way to disarm the GAC would be to turn it into another ICANN board. That means it would need conflicts of interest, sleazy people, and board squatting.

    So they get this guy then ... I could have been really catty in this comment, I pulled my punch!
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