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    Re: Domain Name Graveyard
    by Anonymous on Saturday August 03 2002, @11:08AM (#8346)
    Buyclamsonline.com wasn't a good name when it's record was first created, and it's still a lousy name today. It should not be used to measure the worth of new TLDs. Certainly, buyclamsonline.com is equally worthless as buyclamsonline.biz.
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    Re: Domain Name Graveyard
    by fnord (groy2kNO@SPAMyahoo.com) on Saturday August 03 2002, @12:39PM (#8348)
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    An excellent and humorous article.

    Michael writes:

    No doubt people will use the fact that long boring impossible to type names are less in demand as "evidence" that there is "no demand" for short catchy names in new TLDs chosen in a market-driven (rather than ICANN-Board-whimsy) process. Even though there's not much connection between the two.
    I do think there is some connection between the two, the pre-bubble exuberance and optimism that caused many to register many of these names is gone, and it probably won't be back. Half the 2LD namespace expiring. GAK! Well, I feign surprise but I predicted this, and worse. And what happens next year? Half of that remainder expires? At what point does this burn rate (which is hitting VeriSign harder than anyone) stop?

    The demand in that pre-bubble era for new TLDs so that more could have short catchy names hasn't gone away, but it is also probably undergoing a similar market correction. I'm just trying to be realistic here by saying that while, of course, there is not "no demand", and there is probably not even a drop in demand corresponding to the dropped name rate, there is also probably also a considerable drop in demand for short, catchy names.

    Many of the folks which registered these names were probably amongst those wanting short, catchy ones. But in many (I suspect the vast majority) of these cases they didn't do anything with the names they did get, so why should we believe that they are still out there wanting shorter names? Or that if they are, and got them, that they would then do anything with them? So then short catchy names get registered and sit unused, and other than making for a slimmer database, and funding ICANN's supply chain to live in unreality for another year, how does that solve anything?

    Now don't get me wrong. I think ICANN should move almost immediately to approve many of the remaining first round applicants (and I'm not saying one should give Paul Garrin all he wants), assuming they are still interested, and I suspect many of them may not be because they understand that that was then and this is now. They would at least probably have to redo business plans to reflect current realities, ICANN would then want to re-assess those plans, ICANN doesn't have any assessment money left for that... Ohhh, what a mess. Well anyway, hopefully some way could be found to approve some of those if they're ready, willing, and able. And aim for a hundred more in a year or so. I'd honestly be very surprised if there were that many independent applicants out there. Any bets we wouldn't see VeriSign applying for a horde of them. And perhaps few others to compete with them. That's not much of a solution either. -g

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    Re: Domain Name Graveyard
    by Anonymous on Sunday August 04 2002, @04:55AM (#8357)
    I have it on good authority that Image Online Design still wants to run .WEB and that their business plan is as valid today as it was in November, 2000.

    They are, as they always have been, ready now.
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    Re: Domain Name Graveyard
    by fnord (groy2kNO@SPAMyahoo.com) on Sunday August 04 2002, @09:58PM (#8373)
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    Scary stuff netboyz 'n' webgrrls. Bret Fausett also covers this story using the seminal buyclamsonline.com. Well, Stargate tells me it's registered. They won't tell me any more than that, their WHOIS is down, and using various tools I couldn't get any additional info beyond primary and secondary nameservers of DNS1.STARGATEINC.NET and DNS2.... Perhaps it just hasn't been completely purged yet, but if it has been re-registered I'm going to be so bummed. I wanted that name, man. I was just waiting for WLS to be okayed so I could grab it. Oh well, it's damaged goods anyway, they already had a webpage up (if you can't recognize it, that's an unshorn VeriSign placeholder page). -g
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    Re: Domain Name Graveyard
    by fnord (groy2kNO@SPAMyahoo.com) on Tuesday August 06 2002, @07:16PM (#8406)
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    The L. A. Times recently covered [free registration required] the same trend. -g
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