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    Re: VeriSign, Euro Registires Want ICANN Scaled Ba
    by Anonymous on Thursday August 01 2002, @07:43PM (#8288)
    At the recent CATO conference, Milton Mueller pegged the DNS industry at about $2B, about the size of the leather mocassin industry as he put it (not a real big pie, so to speak). Nonetheless, ICANN has found itself with about a slice the size as that of an average domain name registrar, or something less than 1% of the total $ changing hands on an annual basis. In other words, others are making money while they are not getting their "fair share". The very detailed registry agreements point to a motivation where ICANN wants to influence how the specific registry runs its day-to-day business. This points to a motivation of desiring more of a vested interest in how the new registries are performing - financially - without actually physcially operating it. ICANN has further influenced this evolution by often inferring that the sponsored registry model poses less stability risk and such a formal announcement regarding the next round should come as no surprise. The sponsored model provides ICANN greater assurance the TLD string will be run day-to-day the way ICANN management believes it should be (i.e. the sponsor is in line with what ICANN believes the string should be for and thus granted the delegation). ICANN has made no secret it needs additional funding. It has offered a tax per domain name as a fundng mechanism. Well, what good is a per unit tax towards stable long term funding (including some unkown reserve amount no less) if the TLD string is not being run on a day-to-day basis the way ICANN management believes it should be? Oh, and a tax never goes down, only up. Everything ICANN is manipulating is all about obtaining a vested interest in each of the registries towards increasing and securing its slice of the current $2B pie...something, as they say themselves, was never made part of their existence and is in need of reform. If there is a monopoly issue here, this is it because then but a single entity in the world will have a vested influence in each TLD registry by way of its 1) detailed agreements and business reporting compliance, 2) TLD sponsorships that fit its business model beliefs for the string, and 3) a per unit tax on every domain name sold. If I am Verisign, I look in my crystal ball and see a big shift of market share $ to total $ in this space and not caused by the result of competition but a shift in $ to a single entity that has maneuvered a vested interest in each without a dime outlay or risk. The best Verisign can do is hope to buy a minority interest into every new registry with limited influence over day-to-day operations. ICANN just wants to take it and have direct influence over how each and every one is operated day-to-day where the actual owners and management team of each registry are nothing more than puppets that report to them. Not even the highly regulatory FCC tries - or desires - to obtain such influence in the radio and TV licensing spectrums. But, then again, the FCC is not a private corporation. And, compare this to what Jon Postel was doing with little assistance or compared to his vision of expansion. Quite a difference.
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    Re: VeriSign, Euro Registires Want ICANN Scaled Ba by Anonymous
    Re: VeriSign, Euro Registires Want ICANN Scaled Ba
    by Anonymous on Friday August 02 2002, @03:13AM (#8295)
    Academic question: Unregulated monopoly versus regulated monopoly...what would you choose?
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    Re: VeriSign, Euro Registires Want ICANN Scaled Ba
    by ross (rossattucowsdatcam) on Friday August 02 2002, @03:39AM (#8297)
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    The very detailed registry agreements point to a motivation where ICANN wants to influence how the specific registry runs its day-to-day business.

    Which is *precisely* what we asked it to do not all that long ago.

    As far as your "tax" statements go. There's a huge difference between the $15 (plus "tax" as you say) that registrants are paying today and the $70+ that they were paying not too long ago.

    Regarding Postel - I have to question what leads you to your perception of his vision. I suspect that its about as accurate as most others that quote him in support of their position.

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    Re: VeriSign, Euro Registires Want ICANN Scaled Ba
    by fnord (groy2kNO@SPAMyahoo.com) on Friday August 02 2002, @08:31AM (#8314)
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    Good points. However the comparison to the radio or TV spectrums is a bit misleading. They are finite resources, though there have been technical successes in narrowing the amount of resourses needed for a given application. So, at some astronomical level, is the namespace resource finite, but it is probably for all practical purposes infinite. Therefore, to be able to control who gets what, and why and when and how and for how much and what they can then do with it, ICANN has to throttle a very wide spectrum down into a very narrow range and say that that is all there is available. -g
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