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    Re: Apples and Hand Grenades...
    by RFassett on Tuesday July 30 2002, @05:32PM (#8237)
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    as a lay person, it just seemed to me 2 years ago that the whole debate about adding new TLD's and its corresponding effect upon the Internet's technical stability could finally be answered to some degree once the 7 new registries launched.

    It seemed reasonable that the IETF recommendation of 7- 10 was a place to start or find out. And, once this was accomplished, technical data could be relatively easily gathered to (finally) substantiate one way or the other the long standing debate of new TLD's vs. Internet stability.

    Part of this assumption was that the IETF would actually care enough to want to find out. Afterall, it was their recommendation that ICANN cited as authoritative that limited the test round to 7 new TLD's. It is shameful that ICANN moved forward in implementing new TLD's without any designed process to gather technical data relative to stability. The fact this has happened is beyond basic common sense given the gravity of what this was supposed to be all about.

    But, the IETF is not ICANN. The IETF has its own principles, guidelines and mission that it follows. Certainly, it would seem on the surface, that technical stability of the Internet as this relates to the new TLD registries would be something the IETF would feel an obligation to monitor. It not only would appear to be within their scope but one of necessity, especially given that their original position shaped the very limited and first ever expansion process the community is now saddled with.

    It is one thing to say that ICANN is an amateurish entity without a sound technical evaluation process in place to monitor stability as a result of the new TLD's....that ICANN can not produce today any type of quantitative report on the matter. It is quite another for the IETF to say that this is outside their scope. The irony is that the current silence from the IETF continues to be part of the failure of ICANN. When the IETF chose to state its position and ICANN cited it as authoritative, the IETF became part of what is now potentially deemed as the "failure". Continued silence does not absolve the IETF here. To me, it seems difficult for any reasonable person to advocate any further involvement from the IETF given their cut and run approach specifically to this.
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