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    Re: SnapNames Response to Names Council Wait Listi
    by GeorgeK on Friday July 26 2002, @04:17PM (#8109)
    User #3191 Info | http://www.kirikos.com/
    All of Susan's arguments have been made in the past, and had been responded to. It seems that they simply want to get in "the last word" (or "the last spin"), as a desperate last move to influence the ICANN board.

    The fact of the matter is that there is intrinsic demand for the domain names themselves, not WLS as a mechanism to acquire them. We currently have numerous means to acquire those names, and WLS seeks to monopolize that marketplace not because it is a "better offering", but instead because it gets first dibs on all the names, leaving everyone else with names that no one else wanted. If NameWinner had done such a deal with Verisign, instead of SnapNames, we'd see the exact opposite spin by SnapNames, I'm sure, that it's anti-competitive, etc.

    I found it amusing that proponents of WLS refused to take my "Cookie Challenge", posted on the DNSO GA list multiple times, to answer the questions posed at:


    among other places. However, Susan has taken up the "Cheese Challenge". Where shall I send the cheese, to go along with her whine? :)


    George Kirikos
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    Re: SnapNames Response to Names Council Wait Listi
    by RFassett on Saturday July 27 2002, @03:30PM (#8119)
    User #3226 Info | http://www.enum.info
    as I look at the overall landscape of "registering a domain name the split second it becomes available" let us not totally dismiss the out and out gouging the registrar community has inflicted upon the community in relation to the new TLD's. Many of the "closed list" occurrences well documented are - and have been for a long time - true as part of the .com delete game as well. As an average domain name registrant, I find it quite humorous to hear the registrar position that the consumer will be hurt as a result of the implementation of WLS. What is humourous is that the registrars - by and large - have proven to care absolutely nothing about consumer best interests. And I do not think I need to cite any examples here (already been done to the nth degree). To hear "protecting the consumer" over and over from the registrar sector relating to registering a domain name the split second it can be is really nauseating. If anything, WLS is a method by the wholesaler to self regulate its completely out of control supply channel (in this regard). For the registrars, this is not about protecting consumer best interests by way of competition. It is about preserving a revenue stream they have manipulated based upon a scarcity of supply. A revenue stream for this particular retail sector that has proven nothing but imaginative ways to gouge the consumer. Instead of just admitting this, the affected registrars keep trying to spin it as an issue of "competition" that will have adverse affects upon the consumer. And that is what is so nauseating. Registrars are domain speculators (purely motivated to sell a certain subset above normal retail) and this is all they care about in preserving. Period. And no, I am not pro-Verisign or pro-WLS. Just tired of the propaganda.
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