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    Re: The Weirdness Never STOPs
    by fnord (groy2kNO@SPAMyahoo.com) on Wednesday July 17 2002, @01:28AM (#7929)
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    bainbridge.biz is weird, but things could be weirder. Am I not correct that if Bainbridge the complainant had won, then bainbridge.biz was immune from further challenge? It's been so long since this new TLD rollout mess started that I can't remember if that was just immunity from other STOPs or blanket immunity under the UDRP. That might help to explain why they challenged themselves. Or mebbe they just didn't RTFM.

    This is one good example of how new TLDs are being used, misused and abused. bainbridge.biz doesn't presently resolve, perhaps they were awaiting the outcome of the ruling. :) The same complainant/respondent also has bainbridge.info, which, after an annoyingly slow loading and lame Flash intro, redirects to what appears to be their main site at bainbridgeinc.com. They also own and use bainbridgeconsulting.com to Flash and redirect a la bainbridge.info, ditto for bainbridge-research.com, bbridge.com, and a host :) of others. Perhaps now that they've managed to win this hardfought decision, they'll put bainbridge.biz to such stellar use. What can you expect when this consulting firm's motto is Optimizing your strategic position?

    Well, one might expect them to position themselves at bainbridge.com if possible, but that was last registered in April 2002 to someone apparently in Panama (and presumably not the complainant/respondent) and doesn't resolve. Prior to that the domain sat for three years looking like this. Even a stopped clock can't slow the future from becoming the past. Meanwhile bainbridge.net is an ISP just to the south of me in Washington State I once did some business with, and bainbridge.org is a generic page for a netidentity property, along the lines of .name, eg: flash@bainbridge.org and flash.bainbridge.org, which the consulting firm has yet to register, though of course they're not an .org so they shouldn't anyway. ;)

    And just to complete this little tour of new and used gTLD domain names, let's look at a few ersatz ones. bainbridge.tv is also owned by the complainant/respondent but rather than show their Flash interstitial (arguably, if you accept .tv as a gTLD, this is the best address for it because it is just like a TV advert, only worse), instead it is just a register.com Coming Soon placeholder page that will attempt to reset your default home page and give you popup ads. This isn't the consulting firms fault, at least not entirely, the register.com homepage will try the same.

    bainbridge.ws is the same register.com drek, I wasn't able to access the WHOIS on that one after various tries using various tools. register.com itself tells me the database is currently inaccessible. Of course, register.com will only coyly tell me that bainbridge.ws may be available until three pages in, after which they offer to contact the present owner to see if they want to resell it, minimum offer $200. The WHOIS, when it is accessible, is even better hidden. Well, of course, otherwise I could look up the owner myself and contact them rather than give register.com a cut. I think I'll pass anyway, bainbridge.cc is unaccountably still available, I don't know why the complainant/respondent consulting and capital company missed that one, clearly it shows they aren't aggressively protecting their mark. :) -g

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    Re: The Weirdness Never STOPs
    by fnord (groy2kNO@SPAMyahoo.com) on Sunday July 21 2002, @05:00AM (#7995)
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    Well, I thought that was wrong, or not the whole story, so I went to have a look [4.l.ii 1 and 2].:
    In the event that the Complainant demonstrates that:

    it has legitimate rights to the domain name,
    you have no legitimate rights, and

    you have either registered the domain name in bad faith or used the domain name in bad faith,

    and the Respondent fails to demonstrate that it has legitimate rights to the domain name, the Panel will find in favor of the Complainant, award the domain name to the Complainant, and decide that no subsequent challenges under this Policy against the domain name(s) that is/are the subject of the Panel's decision shall be permitted.

    In the event that you demonstrate that you have legitimate rights to the domain name, the Panel will dismiss the complaint, and decide that no subsequent challenges under this Policy against the domain name(s) that is/are the subject of the Panel's decision shall be permitted.

    So as I said, challenging oneself could make one immune to future challenges. This is similar to what happened with various false trademarked .info names, where the challenger and respondent were essentially the same entity, and the challenger usually won. SFAIK the thinking of the panel in those cases hasn't been published. That may be because there wasn't any. -g

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    Re: Court Throws Out Canadian.biz decision
    by fnord (groy2kNO@SPAMyahoo.com) on Monday July 22 2002, @03:05AM (#8001)
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    That link doesn't work, isn't it udrplaw.net? Although the .biz is the underlying link given at udrplaw.net. Trying http://www.udrplaw.net/BlackvMolson.pdf was also unsuccessful. Here is some press coverage of the ruling. -g
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    Re: Court Throws Out Canadian.biz decision
    by fnord (groy2kNO@SPAMyahoo.com) on Monday July 22 2002, @09:06AM (#8009)
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    The .biz link now works, it isn't presently at the equivalent .net. -g
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