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    Re: The Weirdness Never STOPs
    by fnord (groy2kNO@SPAMyahoo.com) on Wednesday July 17 2002, @01:28AM (#7929)
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    bainbridge.biz is weird, but things could be weirder. Am I not correct that if Bainbridge the complainant had won, then bainbridge.biz was immune from further challenge? It's been so long since this new TLD rollout mess started that I can't remember if that was just immunity from other STOPs or blanket immunity under the UDRP. That might help to explain why they challenged themselves. Or mebbe they just didn't RTFM.

    This is one good example of how new TLDs are being used, misused and abused. bainbridge.biz doesn't presently resolve, perhaps they were awaiting the outcome of the ruling. :) The same complainant/respondent also has bainbridge.info, which, after an annoyingly slow loading and lame Flash intro, redirects to what appears to be their main site at bainbridgeinc.com. They also own and use bainbridgeconsulting.com to Flash and redirect a la bainbridge.info, ditto for bainbridge-research.com, bbridge.com, and a host :) of others. Perhaps now that they've managed to win this hardfought decision, they'll put bainbridge.biz to such stellar use. What can you expect when this consulting firm's motto is Optimizing your strategic position?

    Well, one might expect them to position themselves at bainbridge.com if possible, but that was last registered in April 2002 to someone apparently in Panama (and presumably not the complainant/respondent) and doesn't resolve. Prior to that the domain sat for three years looking like this. Even a stopped clock can't slow the future from becoming the past. Meanwhile bainbridge.net is an ISP just to the south of me in Washington State I once did some business with, and bainbridge.org is a generic page for a netidentity property, along the lines of .name, eg: flash@bainbridge.org and flash.bainbridge.org, which the consulting firm has yet to register, though of course they're not an .org so they shouldn't anyway. ;)

    And just to complete this little tour of new and used gTLD domain names, let's look at a few ersatz ones. bainbridge.tv is also owned by the complainant/respondent but rather than show their Flash interstitial (arguably, if you accept .tv as a gTLD, this is the best address for it because it is just like a TV advert, only worse), instead it is just a register.com Coming Soon placeholder page that will attempt to reset your default home page and give you popup ads. This isn't the consulting firms fault, at least not entirely, the register.com homepage will try the same.

    bainbridge.ws is the same register.com drek, I wasn't able to access the WHOIS on that one after various tries using various tools. register.com itself tells me the database is currently inaccessible. Of course, register.com will only coyly tell me that bainbridge.ws may be available until three pages in, after which they offer to contact the present owner to see if they want to resell it, minimum offer $200. The WHOIS, when it is accessible, is even better hidden. Well, of course, otherwise I could look up the owner myself and contact them rather than give register.com a cut. I think I'll pass anyway, bainbridge.cc is unaccountably still available, I don't know why the complainant/respondent consulting and capital company missed that one, clearly it shows they aren't aggressively protecting their mark. :) -g

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    Re: The Weirdness Never STOPs
    by Anonymous on Wednesday July 17 2002, @02:27AM (#7934)
    fnord, to answer your question, it is up to the panel whether to allow future challenges to .biz domain names if a complaint is denied. In many cases, the panelists state that future challenges will not be allowed because they realize that the name is just plain generic and there is no reason to allow future challenges. See masterpiece.biz and appliance.biz.

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    Re: Court Throws Out Canadian.biz decision
    by Anonymous on Monday July 22 2002, @01:41AM (#8000)
    Last Thursday, the Ontario Superior Court threw out the Canadian.biz STOP decision, and found that the original registrant was the rightful owner of the domain name. Molson was ordered to pay the registrant's attorney fees too. A copy of the decision is at http://www.udrplaw.biz/BlackvMolson.pdf
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