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    Re: Directi warehousing .info LR2 names
    by PeterBarron (pebarron@hotmail.com) on Tuesday July 16 2002, @06:44PM (#7922)
    User #3240 Info | http://www.icannwatch.org/
    Nothing like waking up to a nice, on target post by fnord.

    I invite you to go back over the applications for new TLD registries and see which ones had the sunrise and landrush messes that gave us this, and which proposed, simply, first come first served.

    Which were willing to invest, or had already invested in the infrastructure to handle a simple first come policy, and which weren't confident enough in their engineering ability and had to engineer, instead, a political solution that they later chose to milk for all it's worth?

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    Re: So wouldn't the WLS help then?
    by unsolicited (unsolicited@audomainnews.info) on Wednesday July 17 2002, @01:50AM (#7931)
    User #3378 Info | www.audomainnews.info
    um...yes but they didn't expire did they? They were newly released by Afilias after their less than successful first attempt at Landrush. Also WLS is a Verisign product that would apply to com, net & org names only (at least in its current incarnation).
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    Re: So wouldn't the WLS help then?
    by fnord (groy2kNO@SPAMyahoo.com) on Wednesday July 17 2002, @02:05AM (#7933)
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    I don't think the WLS will help at all. Certainly not with these new TLD names which won't be part of it anyway, the WLS is presently proposed for .com and .net only. Athough, if WLS is allowed (and I give that a better than 50% chance because it has minority support, that's how ICANN works) I expect it to spread. Then these fine upstanding examples of business ethics and internet governance can sell the name to still one more person who may well never get it. Incredible.

    As for the WLS I've ranted about that a lot and don't want to repeat myself too often, but SnapNames admits that half their current customers are speculators, the WLS will just be a better tool for speculators. They're the first to the names now (or were, till the registrars kept them as is now happening). They'll still be the first to them. And it mostly won't be speculators in the sense of someone just buying a name for resale, it will be those who want to use the domain to continue to catch its former traffic and make a few cents a click, usually by forwarding them to pr0n and gambling sites. That's what these fine upstanding examples of business ethics and internet governance, and their overseer the USG, consider progress. -g

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    Re: So when is Directi going to be brought up for
    by fnord (groy2kNO@SPAMyahoo.com) on Wednesday July 17 2002, @05:20AM (#7947)
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    ICANN only knows it has to get by the MoU deadliine this fall. The only things the USG are concerned about are maintaining US control of the root, giving preference to US businesses (read big businesses, they're the ones with the campaign donations), and guarding intellectual property interests (again particularily US IP, the US is apparently responsible for over 40% of the world's creative output, I suppose if you allow them to count TV reruns like Hogan's Heroes and Gilligan's Island at 5% each they might have a case).

    How does letting the registrars run amok hurt ICANN's cause? It does nothing to lessen US control of the root, it rewards the bigger existing registrars and registries (mostly US based, particularily VeriSign), it protects IP to an absurd extent beyond US law (or that of any other country SFAIK, although its long arm reaches there), and it cons speculators (many of them not in the US) into giving up money they might otherwise use to register a possibly IP infringing name, into instead buying thin air. Looks like a win-win for ICANN and the USG so far.

    Admittedly some of the more shady registrars have gone a bit overboard and could cause a minor blip on the radar, but, as in the present case, some of the worst actors aren't US based, which allows the US to point at them as evidence for why they must maintain control, and to show that other 60% of creative output is inferior. -g

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    Re: Directi warehousing .info LR2 names
    by unsolicited (unsolicited@audomainnews.info) on Wednesday July 17 2002, @11:02PM (#7959)
    User #3378 Info | www.audomainnews.info
    yes precisely. They bought names under their own name for the express purpose of onselling. It's called warehousing and registrars aren't supposed to do it.
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    Re: ICANN Nov 2000:
    by PeterBarron (pebarron@hotmail.com) on Saturday July 20 2002, @11:08AM (#7993)
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    Excuse me, but I just went back and checked, and IOD's price was not $35, it was $15, and IOD said, on the record, that they would lower it if market forces dictated.

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