Inside ICANNWatch  
Submit Story
Lost Password
Site Messages
Top 10 Lists
Latest Comments
Search by topic

Our Mission
ICANN for Beginners
About Us
How To Use This Site
Slash Tech Info
Link to Us
Write to Us

  Useful ICANN sites  
  • ICANN itself
  • Bret Fausett's ICANN Blog
  • Internet Governance Project
  • UN Working Group on Internet Governance
  • Karl Auerbach web site
  • Müller-Maguhn home
  • UDRPinfo.com;
  • UDRPlaw.net;
  • CircleID;
  • LatinoamerICANN Project
  • ICB Tollfree News

  •   At Large Membership and Civil Society Participation in ICANN  
  • icannatlarge.com;
  • Noncommercial Users Constituency of ICANN
  • NAIS Project
  • ICANN At Large Study Committee Final Report
  • ICANN (non)Members page
  • ICANN Membership Election site

  • ICANN-Related Reading
    Browse ICANNWatch by Subject

    Ted Byfied
    - ICANN: Defending Our Precious Bodily Fluids
    - Ushering in Banality
    - ICANN! No U CANN't!
    - roving_reporter
    - DNS: A Short History and a Short Future

    David Farber
    - Overcoming ICANN (PFIR statement)

    A. Michael Froomkin
    - When We Say US™, We Mean It!
    - ICANN 2.0: Meet The New Boss
    - Habermas@ discourse.net: Toward a Critical Theory of Cyberspace
    - ICANN and Anti-Trust (with Mark Lemley)
    - Wrong Turn in Cyberspace: Using ICANN to Route Around the APA & the Constitution (html)
    - Form and Substance in Cyberspace
    - ICANN's "Uniform Dispute Resolution Policy"-- Causes and (Partial) Cures

    Milton Mueller
    - Ruling the Root
    - Success by Default: A New Profile of Domain Name Trademark Disputes under ICANN's UDRP
    - Dancing the Quango: ICANN as International Regulatory Regime
    - Goverments and Country Names: ICANN's Transformation into an Intergovernmental Regime
    - Competing DNS Roots: Creative Destruction or Just Plain Destruction?
    - Rough Justice: A Statistical Assessment of the UDRP
    - ICANN and Internet Governance

    David Post
    - Governing Cyberspace, or Where is James Madison When We Need Him?
    - The 'Unsettled Paradox': The Internet, the State, and the Consent of the Governed

    Jonathan Weinberg
    - Sitefinder and Internet Governance
    - ICANN, Internet Stability, and New Top Level Domains
    - Geeks and Greeks
    - ICANN and the Problem of Legitimacy

    Highlights of the ICANNWatch Archive
    (June 1999 - March 2001)

    This discussion has been archived. No new comments can be posted.
    Directi warehousing .info LR2 names | Log in/Create an Account | Top | 41 comments | Search Discussion
    Click this button to post a comment to this story
    The options below will change how the comments display
    Check box to change your default comment view
    The Fine Print: The following comments are owned by whoever posted them. We are not responsible for them in any way.
    Comment from Richard Henderson about Directi
    by Anonymous on Wednesday July 17 2002, @05:48PM (#7957)
    I feel Directi should be given an opportunity to explain, in this case. The people who bid on names through Directi are paying for those names. There is a payment process and it's working. The names are not being held back by Directi.

    I think the rather unwise "BID" messages on the WHOIS details were put there when the names were submitted, at which time Directi had planned to carry on bidding after the registrations were announced.

    However, there was outcry (for example in the ICANN public forum) and Bhavin T accepted the prevalent view and agreed to end the auctions BEFORE registrations were announced. At that point, the WHOIS "bid" messages became irrelevant.

    I have been a vociferous critic of ICANN, Registry and Registrar malpractice over the past 12 months, but in this case I take the view that it was ICANN and Afilias who were responsible. They were WARNED that there would be a re-run of the .biz2B abuses, with Registrars submitting lists for themselves or selling entire lists to a favoured client.

    You have only to look at the mini-list submitted by Signature, where all 10 .biz names went to their own Business Partner, Joshua Blacker. Once again in LR2, Signature Domains submitted a mini-list, securing just 3 names - but WHAT names!

    Or compare the identical control of the BondiLLC list by Marco Publishing Corporation (Marc Ostrovsky if I'm not mistaken) - in both LR2 and .biz2B he controlled the list.

    Or Lin ZanSong with Xin Net Corp.

    Or why did Francis Piet of Nordnet make it so expensive for applicants, demanding 10 year registrations... then he took his own short list, added his own applications, and got the majority of good names for himself, with just 2 year registrations. One rule for the customers, one for himself? I may be mistaken about this, but check the WHOIS for yourself.

    So I warned Dan Halloran in advance, that what happened in .biz2B would be repeated in LR2 unless ICANN intervened. I issued a public warning in early April and I sent Dan Halloran a mail on May 12th (and about six times again after that).

    68 days later he still hasn't acknowledged my mail or responded to my concerns. And now LR2 has come and passed.

    ICANN knew the problems. But they chose to do nothing.

    In my view it is not Directi but ICANN and Afilias who should be criticised for LR2. It is typical that Afilias Director Moshe Fogel gained domains.info by applying for himself using a short list.

    And yet it was the Afilias Board and Executive who created the problem in the first place!

    As Robert Connelly of PSI-Japan said, when he resigned from the Afilias Board in protest at the dereliction of Landrush1 customers - it has been an "Abomination".

    And ICANN has presided over it all.

    I hope Nancy Victory considers these things very carefully when she reviews the MoU this autumn.

    Richard Henderson
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    Re: Comment from Richard Henderson about Directi
    by unsolicited (unsolicited@audomainnews.info) on Wednesday July 17 2002, @11:15PM (#7960)
    User #3378 Info | www.audomainnews.info
    Richard that's all very interesting but this thread is not about LR2 per se. This is about a registrar warehousing names. Yes ICANN and Afilias should be doing something about it but the point is that Directi are warehousing names and they shoudn't be doing it. Whatever BS Bhavin has spun around other forums is irrelevant. He registered names for the express purpose of onselling them. He shouldn't do that and if he doesn't understand why he shouldn't be doing that then he shouldn't be an accredited registrar. He has demonstrated on more than one occasion his fundamental misunderstanding of the role of a registrar.
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
  • 2 replies beneath your current threshold.

  • Search ICANNWatch.org:

    Privacy Policy: We will not knowingly give out your personal data -- other than identifying your postings in the way you direct by setting your configuration options -- without a court order. All logos and trademarks in this site are property of their respective owner. The comments are property of their posters, all the rest © 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008 by ICANNWatch.Org. This web site was made with Slashcode, a web portal system written in perl. Slashcode is Free Software released under the GNU/GPL license.
    You can syndicate our headlines in .rdf, .rss, or .xml. Domain registration services donated by DomainRegistry.com