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    Re: ICANN staff obstructing COI procedures?
    by ANNODOMINI2000 (reversethis-{KU.OC.OOHAY} {ta} {D0002DA}) on Wednesday July 10 2002, @11:39PM (#7770)
    User #3359 Info | http://www.ad2000d.co.uk/
    Perhaps ICANN should claim Californian Law does not really apply to them as they're an international corporation and do not recognise the authority of the Californian Courts?

    Funny situation.

    It's high, high time ICANN got a big pasting.

    Good luck to you Karl, you seem a decent and honest bloke! (unlike most, if not all, of them)
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    Re: ICANN staff obstructing COI procedures?
    by PeterBarron (pebarron@hotmail.com) on Wednesday July 10 2002, @06:15AM (#7754)
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    What procedures? The ones brought into life after Karl's request, and that no other director has had to follow? The ones that instruct ICANN staff to deliberately obstruct Karl?

    I think you've not only shown your cowardice to post under your own name, but you've also shown that you've not read the lawsuit.

    Troll.

    ++Peter
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    Re: ICANN staff obstructing COI procedures?
    by fnord (groy2kNO@SPAMyahoo.com) on Wednesday July 10 2002, @06:46AM (#7756)
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    I was thinking WorldCon might be appropriate. -g
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    Re: ICANN staff obstructing COI procedures?
    by fnord (groy2kNO@SPAMyahoo.com) on Wednesday July 10 2002, @06:50AM (#7757)
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    ICANN didn't bring the suit, Karl did, so this isn't just an anon troll, it's lame. Karl seems to be the one following procedures as required by California law. -g
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    Re: ICANN staff obstructing COI procedures?
    by PeterBarron (pebarron@hotmail.com) on Wednesday July 10 2002, @07:43AM (#7759)
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    Excuse me, but when did you develop psychic powers? How do you know that is what Karl really wants to do? Unless you can prove this, it's just a guess on your part. A guess that I, and many others, do not agree with.

    Karl appears to know, better than most, what his duties to ICANN are.

    ++Peter
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    Re: ICANN staff obstructing COI procedures?
    by fnord (groy2kNO@SPAMyahoo.com) on Wednesday July 10 2002, @10:10AM (#7760)
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    Under California law Karl has the absolute right to inspect all documents of the Corporation. It doesn't say, absolute, except you have to first sign this document written by the staff, (the staff who are his employees, no less). If, and Karl has never claimed that he wants to tell the world, he did that and harmed the Corporation he would be legally liable. He knows that, he's a California lawyer, he's on record as saying that he is aware of his fiduciary duty as a Director. So this worry that he would improperly release documents is just a worry, and a red herring. It is alleging a potential future harm without any evidence, even if there were such evidence it would have no legal power to overrule existing California law. -g
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    Re: ICANN staff obstructing COI procedures?
    by PeterBarron (pebarron@hotmail.com) on Wednesday July 10 2002, @11:11AM (#7763)
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    How do you know? Can you prove that? Or is that just your opinion?

    ++Peter
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    Re: ICANN staff obstructing COI procedures?
    by fnord (groy2kNO@SPAMyahoo.com) on Wednesday July 10 2002, @07:57PM (#7768)
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    ICANN was created and billed to be open and transparent. It has no competitors in the sense that Enron or Worldcom do, so the openness and transparency should be greater. There are no state secrets that will harm ICANN's competitive position because it has no competition. Even if it did, it is a non-profit. What is it that Karl could possibly find (and release, and SFAIK he has never suggested he would release such material to the public) that could possibly harm the Corporation? You are just another anon troll ICANN apologist, if you have some facts to lay on the table please do so, otherwise save your pleadings for court, where you actually have to give your name and swear in. These conspiracy theorists at WorldCom weren't believed a year ago and look what happened. If they ever peel back the ICANN onion I expect we'll find rot and corruption on a scale that beggars the imagination. -g
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    Re: Karl not following procedures?
    by ANNODOMINI2000 (reversethis-{KU.OC.OOHAY} {ta} {D0002DA}) on Wednesday July 10 2002, @11:34PM (#7769)
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    Karl not following procedures means ICANN will be vindicated? LOL

    I very much doubt it.

    I have personally read the ICANN Article of Incorporation (or whatever they're officially called) and Karl's point is TOTALLY valid.

    ICANN are scre*ed
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