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    I am confused
    by fnord (groy2kNO@SPAMyahoo.com) on Wednesday July 10 2002, @12:09AM (#7746)
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    I watched Douglas Black interviewed this evening on the Global television network (Canada's largest media conglomerate, owned by a friend of the Prime Minister). Black professed to be baffled to find that a beer company owns the word Canadian. I must say that beer and Canadian go together like Swiss and cheese, except that Canadians are also known for cheese. Wait a minute, I'm getting confused. Where was I going with this?

    Oh yeah, so I went to Global's website to point you folks to a story, a transcript, or some streaming video if we're lucky (Global Vancouver, which used to be called BCTV, but now some other station is called that, ohhh I'm getting confused again, was the world's first TV station to livestream its newscasts online).

    So anyway, global isn't at global.ca or at global.com, it's at Canada.com (not canada.ca, that's reserved by CIRA, the .ca administrator), so if you want to learn about Global you go to Canada. I feel more confusion coming on. OTOH if you want to learn about Canada I wouldn't recommend going to Global because they're a mouthpiece for the scandal plagued federal government, but you could try canada.info (registered to the Communications Department of the Goverment of Canada) except it doesn't communicate.

    Hmmm, how about canada.biz? Ya, that sorta works. It is presently owned by Stephen Rumney of England, who is more well known for grabbing many of the 'best' .info names in Sunrise using false trademark data. He later kept some of these through the Afilias WIPO challenge process, and lost others, sometimes to others who had trademarks, sometimes to others who also had no trademarks. And he even seems to have lost games.info and got it back. Ohhh, I'm confused again.

    Molson Brewery has a long-running ad campaign based on patriotism which features the slogan I am Canadian, so they also have an iam.ca site, powered by Canada.com. Molson is also, absurdly, the registrant for iam.info, which loses something in the translation. And Molson apparently isn't the registrant of either canadian.ca or canadien.ca, the latter being the French spelling (Canada is officially bilingual English/French). Canadien.* is also registered in .com .net .org .info .biz, only the latter of which is registered to someone in Canada, and neither it nor any of the others are registered to Molson. BTW, canada.us and canadian.us are both registered to the same individual in Florida. OTOH some apparent Canadian seems to have an interest in Florida. The osceolasheriff.org site at time of writing now just points to domainquest's front page without porn. The sheriff can now be found at osceolasheriff.com, which is only somewhat confusing. I suspect this story may be a harbinger of more to come from the dropjacker crowd.

    Back to Canada, which is to say Global, I wasn't able to find any streaming video, though they do cover the story here. The television version said the ruling will take some weeks to come down. Molson came across as an over-reaching corporate bully so they've probably already lost much more than they can gain, no matter the ruling. I don't know of any other court cases regarding UDRP decisions outside the US. It will be interesting to see if Canadian law can cut through the confusion. -g

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    Re: I am confused
    by Anonymous on Wednesday July 10 2002, @12:19AM (#7747)
    Well said. As for UDRP challenges outside the US, the MarutiOnline case (D2000-1038) was challenged in India and SweetSuccess.com was challenged in both Canada and the US. Doug Black's able counsel, Zak Muscovich, cited to the SweetSuccess.com case in the papers filed for Canadian.biz. This will be an interesting case, keep us non-Canadians posted.
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    Uniform Dispute Resolution?
    by Anonymous on Thursday July 11 2002, @09:10AM (#7784)
    How can a *uniform* dispute policy resolve anything correctly if ownership so diverse and additional (conflicting) TLDs are allowed to be created?
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