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    Re: More New TLDs?? Not sure that will fix the pr
    by fnord (reversethis-{moc.oohay} {ta} {k2yorg}) on Tuesday July 02 2002, @11:57AM (#7573)
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    On your first point I have to disagree. Let us see what happens with TLDs like .aero and .museum. Presumably they are less full of speculation and defensive registrations and other drek than .biz, or .com. They are also, despite what some argue, a directory system, and are less likely to cause confusion than wide open TLDs. An additional 100 TLDs following a similar pattern could be acceptable if they also meant something more intuitive than .w7k or .nuy6.

    Admittedly .aero and .museum have less than 10 thousand registrations between them, the question will be whether they can survive financially at that level. If we are to believe Gilmore's figures, it doesn't cost a registry very much per name. And I do know one thing. As a hobby which became a sideline I sell rare books online. If I had to pay say $100 per year for a .book or .books domain, knowing that consumers would only find books there, and would be much less likely to have to wade through drek, I would consider it money well spent. I am not suggesting that any and all new TLDs, open or restricted (and we almost certainly won't see any of the former for many years), would have to charge this price, only that I don't see it as out of line for commercial use. A yearly yellow pages display ad can cost many times that. I also see no reason why the same registry could not handle more than one TLD (VeriSign has managed to do so), allowing economies of scale, and a commercial TLD could be priced higher than a non-commercial TLD.

    On your second point, I am ambivalent about ICANN attempting to become, amongst other things, a consumer protection association. OT1H, I can see the merits in what Tucows has to say, and generally find them the sanest voice in the registrar community. OTOH this could, and given ICANN's record to date, probably would, lead to more mission creep, and from the same record, they could well handle it badly. I do find it absurd that ICANN will accredit registrars with next to zero oversight other than whether the applicant can afford to pay ICANN, while putting registry applicants under a micro-manage microscope. -g

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    Re: More New TLDs?? Not sure that will fix the pr by fnord
    Restricted TLDs are fine, but Gilmore talks of unr
    by edelman@law.harvard. on Tuesday July 02 2002, @12:28PM (#7575)
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    Agreed that .AERO and .MUSEUM represent an interesting concept that certainly isn't likely to cause much defensive registration and that's also likely to provide a certain value & quality precisely along the lines you describe. 100 more such TLDs make a certain amount of sense, and I wouldn't be surprised to find a growing consensus around such an approach.

    But that's just not what Gilmore was talking about & advocating in his interview. He says: "thousands of top-level domains, in which anyone could register a name" (emphasis added). And he subsequently contemplates registrants using one TLD rather than another if a desired domain isn't available in the first TLD attempted. So, as I read the interview, I take Gilmore to be advocating more unrestricted TLDs.

    The point I intended to make in my first paragraph is that new unrestricted TLDs seem to tend to have certain problems. fnord is right to point out that restricted TLDs don't seem to have these problems is true, but I don't think this fact gets at the core of my response to Gilmore. If Gilmore wants more uTLDs, and if uTLDs have the problems I flagged, then it seems to me that fnord's listing of the features & benefits of sTLDs (rTLDs? what do we call these? I'm not sure this precisely matches ICANN's sponsored/unsponsored sTLD/uTLD division) doesn't obviously settle the question of whether Gilmore's "1000 new unrestricted TLD" proposal is or is not a good idea.
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