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    Re: Forza, Barca!
    by Anonymous on Wednesday April 03 2002, @12:12PM (#5687)
    The registrants filed their notice of appeal with the district court of March 22, 2002 (added to the docket by the court on March 25, 2002), the first step in appealing the decision to the 4th Circuit. Check out the UDRP-Court Challenge Database on UDRPlaw.net, http://www.udrplaw.net/UDRPappeals.htm, to track the case, as well as the site's helpful list of City Name decisions, located at: http://www.udrplaw.net/CityNamesresources.htm.
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    Re: Forza, Barca!
    by Anonymous on Wednesday April 03 2002, @12:38PM (#5689)
    The judge is on crack. The Barcelona city council is using the pro government/corporate bias that exists in the domain dispute resolution process to wrest barcelona.com for its lawful registrant.
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    Re: Forza, Barca!
    by Anonymous on Thursday April 04 2002, @02:41AM (#5696)
    The registrants deserve their name back. I hope they win on appeal.
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    Re: Forza, Barca!
    by Anonymous on Thursday April 04 2002, @04:07AM (#5698)
    If there is a contest for the worse judge of the year, this judge has got my vote.
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      Re: Forza, Barca!
      by Anonymous on Friday April 05 2002, @07:48AM (#5722)
      I heard from someone who attended the hearing that this judge insisted to a lawyer in another case that Congress created ICANN. . . Good grief.
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    Re: Forza, Barca!
    by dtobias (dan@tobias.name) on Thursday April 04 2002, @04:46AM (#5699)
    User #2967 Info | http://domains.dan.info/
    I wonder if the lawyer for barcelona.com did a good job of presenting their side? Given some of the dubious things the judge said, I question that. For one thing, a (long) list of city-named sites that are not created or endorsed by the city governments should have been brought up. (For instance, shreveport.net, a site I was involved with in the past that has information about Shreveport, Louisiana, but is not the official city government site; nor is that at shreveport.com, another independent city-info site; the official site is where it belongs at ci.shreveport.la.us.)

    The many UDRP decisions favoring the respondent in geographical-name cases (barcelona.com was the rare, aberrant exception) should also have been brought up forcefully.
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      Re: Forza, Barca!
      by Anonymous on Thursday April 04 2002, @06:08AM (#5700)
      True true. I hope the lawyer for the registrants takes a look at that list of city name cases very closely, as well as the WIPO 1 and WIPO 2 Reports that have not granted special protection to cities and municipalities under the UDRP. The UDRP decision should not have resulted the way it did, based on those reports. The City was lucky it had a favorable Chilean panelist who sided with the City rather than the registrants.

      Given the long list of city names taken by registrants not affiliated with the city, it should help the registrants in their case. Do a search on Namedroppers for "London," "Paris," "Rome," etc and you find thousands of domain names.
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      Re: Give unto Rome that which is Rome's
      by Anonymous on Thursday April 04 2002, @10:53AM (#5703)
      The City should address itself with Barcelona.es and not .com!
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      Re: Forza, Barca!
      by mjrippon on Thursday April 04 2002, @11:16PM (#5708)
      User #2960 Info

      The judgment in this case focussed on Spanish law to determine whether the City Council enjoyed trademark rights to the "Barcelona". Spanish law differs on this to US/UK law, and it was refreshing to see a US court interprete the case accordingly. If the City Council hadn't established trademark rights, their case would have been doomed.

      BTW forza is Italian. Perhaps David meant "Vamos Barca"?

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        Re: Forza, Barca!
        by Anonymous on Friday April 05 2002, @08:45AM (#5723)
        how 'bout we exchange the word "refreshing" with "treason"
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        Re: Forza, Barca!
        by Anonymous on Friday July 05 2002, @01:18AM (#7649)
        The correct phrase is "Força Barça" - in Catalan, not Spanish. (In Spanish it would be "fuerza" but it isn't used in the same way).
        And yes, I agree with other posts, the Worst Judge of the Year Award goes to this man.
        Ricard Giner
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    Re: EFF, Where are you?
    by Anonymous on Thursday April 04 2002, @04:10PM (#5706)
    This is a perfect case for the EFF. They step up to defend real cybersquatters, why not step up to defend people who made legitimate use of domain name. That would make too much sense.
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      Re: EFF, Where are you?
      by Anonymous on Friday April 05 2002, @02:41AM (#5709)
      Right on Anon, the EFF supports litigation for more infamous individuals all the time, why shouldn't they provide some support to the registrants who lost these two awful decisions. Instead of trying to get the ACPA repealed (which is a real waste of time, now that 5 different appellate courts say its okay), it could focus on remedying an injustice and misapplication of the UDRP and ACPA. This case is a classic example of a complainant overstepping the bounds of what should be allowed, and a court failing to grasp how the process really works.
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      Re: EFF, Where are you?
      by Anonymous on Friday April 05 2002, @11:35AM (#5725)
      Anyone from the EFF care to respond? Or are you too busy to defend someone who needs real help?
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