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    Re: TotalNIC Holds Customers' Domain Names Hostage
    by Grumpy on Monday December 17 2001, @05:17AM (#4085)
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    One small problem with what is otherwise a valid complaint -- TotalNIC isn't a registrar. TotalNIC is merely a reseller of registrar services offered by CORE. TotalNIC is not ICANN-accredited (for whatever that's worth), probably is unaware of the registration transfer policy, and may not be subject to the terms of the policy (depending on its contract with CORE).

    I agree that the situation described looks bad... but as the registrar, CORE is the entity on the hook for failure to permit transfers to other registrars. The pressure should be on CORE for apparently violating its responsibilities as a registrar, and then on TotalNIC for apparently frustrating the intentions of its customers.

    - Grumpy
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    Re: TotalNIC Holds Customers' Domain Names Hostage
    by ross (rossattucowsdatcam) on Monday December 17 2001, @07:21AM (#4088)
    User #3098 Info
    Actually they are accredited - and a CORE reseller.
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    Re: TotalNIC Holds Customers' Domain Names Hostage
    by Gilby on Monday December 17 2001, @09:37AM (#4089)
    User #3159 Info
    Yeah, the domain names this happens with is through the CORE part of TotalNIC, but they are still bound by the ICANN policies which requires them to accept transfers if authenticated by the domains administrative contact. TotalNIC is the one with the power to deny the transfer here and they have denied all transfers to other registrars, except to their ICANN part of TotalNIC.

    Some people who do not give in to TotalNICs ransom demands think they can let their domain expire and then register it when it expires, however, TotalNIC renews the domain for another year and puts up a page that says that the domain has been disabled becuase of a billing dispute. That's just wrong.

    Anyways, I found a way to transfer the domain to my desired registrar, OpenSRS, (just showed up as OpenSRS today) without TotalNIC having a chance to deny it. I want to let others know how to do that.

    - Gilby
    (the 'anonymous' in the article)
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    Re: TotalNIC Holds Customers' Domain Names Hostage
    by jfiliss on Saturday December 22 2001, @03:58AM (#4229)
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    Totalnic is in fact an ICANN accredited registrar under the name Capital Networks

    http://www.icann.org/registrars/accredited-list.html

    The premise that Totalnic is unaware of the registration transfer policy isn't credible. This has been an ongoing fight, one that has taken place on the ICANN board with a representative of TotalNIC being present.

    http://forum.icann.org/regxfer/

    Further, totalNIC has been informed of the relevant bylaws of ICANN time and time again. Beyond this, they have received very numerous customers, and have even been reported to the FBI for Internet Fraud

    http://www.sitepointforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=40708

    and have also received negative press

    http://www.theinquirer.net/03120105.htm
    http://ebusiness.idoogle.com/totalnic.shtml

    Also, CORE is an ICANN accredited registrar as well, and subject to the bylaws of ICANN.

    ICANN itself has done nothing to date to rectify the situation with TotalNIC and its aggrieved customers.
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