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    Re: ICANN Closes Most Popular Comment Forum
    by fnord (reversethis-{moc.oohay} {ta} {k2yorg}) on Tuesday March 19 2002, @09:11AM (#5399)
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    As far as ICANN scandals go, I put this one well down the list. ICANN is now in the process of evaluating the new TLDs (in fact it is overdue in that task, like just about everything else). I fail to see why those wishing to post can't just move over to this more appropriate forum that has been up for some time.

    M. Stuart Lynn, while discussing the NTEPPTF at Accra, said that 42 comments had been received, of which 2 were on-topic. Sadly, the signal to noise ratio of the just closed forum wasn't much better. Certainly, much good information has come out of there, I said so myself here on ICANNWatch 7 months ago, but it's time to move on, or over.

    Or off ICANN entirely, seeing as they never respond (and probably don't read) their own forums, that also could be looked at as a solution, and would disable ICANN from pulling the plug, at least by that method. I'm assuming that amongst the many posters to that forum who are speculators (who generate most of the noise), there must be someone with a domain that could be put to use. -g

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    Re: ICANN Closes Most Popular Comment Forum
    by tlr (reversethis-{gro.tsixe-ton-seod} {ta} {relsseor}) on Wednesday March 20 2002, @02:26AM (#5419)
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    I have to admit that I find myself in agreement with Stuart on considering the current public forum system a "joke". It is. And we all know that there are better forms of public discussion than unmoderated and unstructured web forums. ICANNwatch is just one example.
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    Re: ICANN Closes Most Popular Comment Forum
    by dtobias (dan@tobias.name) on Wednesday March 20 2002, @02:30AM (#5420)
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    I don't agree very often with ICANN leadership, but I have to agree that, for the most part, the ICANN forums are a joke. While some meaningful information did come to light there, it's mostly a wasteland of whining, bellyaching, repetitive tirades, and (worst of all in terms of lowering the signal-to-noise ratio) huge numbers of one-liner "me-too" postings from people who seem to think it's a chat room rather than a commentary forum. Whoever got the "brilliant" idea that they could write their message entirely in the subject line and end it with "EOM" should be taken out and shot. That's resulted in the visible messages on the forum screen consisting largely of that sort of useless garbage and causing meaningful messages to be lost in the noise.

    ICANNWatch seems to have a higher proportion of meaningful messages, with the exception of a brief period a few months ago when the mindless chatterers seemed to be trying to take it over.
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    Re: ICANN Closes Most Popular Comment Forum
    by dtobias (dan@tobias.name) on Wednesday March 20 2002, @04:41PM (#5449)
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    Re: ICANN Closes Most Popular Comment Forum
    by fnord (reversethis-{moc.oohay} {ta} {k2yorg}) on Thursday March 21 2002, @01:27AM (#5457)
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    You shot yourself in the foot by registering those names. -g
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    Re: ICANN Closes Most Popular Comment Forum
    by dtobias (dan@tobias.name) on Thursday March 21 2002, @05:28AM (#5467)
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    If these are intended to be noncommercial sites for commentary and information, why use .com addresses? Wouldn't .info or .org be more appropriate?
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    Credibility and Bad Faith
    by WIPOorgUK on Thursday March 21 2002, @09:03AM (#5480)
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    I would say those gentlemen were acting in Bad Faith and lack any credibility - because they are not doing their job properly.

    As well as being incompetent, they have shown contempt and arrogance towards the Internet community.

    Richard is not using domains for speculative or squatting purposes - he has fair use - for free speech issues.

    Just like WIPO.org.uk is to UN WIPO.

    Are you the same Anonymous Coward that did not answer my questions - because he was to frightened to tell the truth?

    I have no problem with people being anonymous - but at least get yourself a handle pal.
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    by dtobias (dan@tobias.name) on Saturday March 23 2002, @04:27AM (#5514)
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    every dot-info registration means one less dot-com renewal.

    I don't see how that's true. Even registrants who changed their site addresses directly from .com to .info probably mostly won't let their old .com addresses expire because of the predators who register expiring domains and put up porn sites. Other .info registrations are for sites that were formerly .org, .us, or other non-.com domains, or for sites that didn't have any domain at all before. Thus, the new TLD grew the market instead of shrinking it.
    These companies also benefit greatly by speculative registartions, fueled by the trade in "aftermarket" domain names. This market would have collapsed if new TLD were to have succeeded,

    Another dubious statement; I'd think that the success of a new TLD would increase the degree of speculation in new TLDs, rather than decreasing it.
    It has been a year since pre-registration has been open for these domains and the only serious website so far is the one by the American Handball Association, and who would want to set up in a TLD that has been so marred by scandal, anyway?

    How about the New York MTA whose mta.info site is advertised to all commuters passing through Grand Central Station? That seems pretty high-profile to me. The scandals regarding new TLDs have been pretty much confined to a few websites and message boards; the general public doesn't know or care about them.
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