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This coming from the same guy who suggests that we stop the At Large elections and set up forums and working groups instead???
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As far as ICANN scandals go, I put this one well down the list. ICANN is now in the process of evaluating the new TLDs (in fact it is overdue in that task, like just about everything else). I fail to see why those wishing to post can't just move over to this more appropriate forum that has been up for some time. M. Stuart Lynn, while discussing the NTEPPTF at Accra, said that 42 comments had been received, of which 2 were on-topic. Sadly, the signal to noise ratio of the just closed forum wasn't much better. Certainly, much good information has come out of there, I said so myself here on ICANNWatch 7 months ago, but it's time to move on, or over. Or off ICANN entirely, seeing as they never respond (and probably don't read) their own forums, that also could be looked at as a solution, and would disable ICANN from pulling the plug, at least by that method. I'm assuming that amongst the many posters to that forum who are speculators (who generate most of the noise), there must be someone with a domain that could be put to use. -g
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ADNS will operate a "catch-all" list for any closed down discussions. This list, with full archives available will be ga@dns-o.org.
Rules? Nope. Democracy can be loud and messy - thats the way its supposed to be.
http://dns-o.org/listinfo/ga
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sorry - thats
http://dns-o.org/mailman/listinfo/ga
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Michael,
Just a little comment about your initials and the confusion it might create with some internet users.
MF stands for 'mother..." , No offense, I didn't invent this. All I'm saying.. when you sign 'mf', it create a bad association that can be avoided, imo.
This comment is with good spirit, not as an insult.
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I have to admit that I find myself in agreement with Stuart on considering the current public forum system a "joke". It is. And we all know that there are better forms of public discussion than unmoderated and unstructured web forums. ICANNwatch is just one example.
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I don't agree very often with ICANN leadership, but I have to agree that, for the most part, the ICANN forums are a joke. While some meaningful information did come to light there, it's mostly a wasteland of whining, bellyaching, repetitive tirades, and (worst of all in terms of lowering the signal-to-noise ratio) huge numbers of one-liner "me-too" postings from people who seem to think it's a chat room rather than a commentary forum. Whoever got the "brilliant" idea that they could write their message entirely in the subject line and end it with "EOM" should be taken out and shot. That's resulted in the visible messages on the forum screen consisting largely of that sort of useless garbage and causing meaningful messages to be lost in the noise.
ICANNWatch seems to have a higher proportion of meaningful messages, with the exception of a brief period a few months ago when the mindless chatterers seemed to be trying to take it over.
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Of course ICANN closes the most popular forum. It's the forum in which fraud and impropriety by Afilias, Verisign, and ICANN-accredited registrars were exposed and substantiated.
If not for that forum, Afilias would have saved tons of money not having to go through the challenge charade for over 10,000 names.
Lynn is the "joke", not that forum.
Sure, there are a alot of idiotic posts there. But those lame posts are mostly there out of frustration with the process. Like this one: Lynn, you are a dick!
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Afilias, ICANN, WIPO and even Congress are all financially and politically interested in the FAILURE of new TLDs. Afilias is comprised of dot-com registrars and every dot-info registration means one less dot-com renewal. Worse, though, is the prospect of every dot-web or dot-whatever registration meaning one less dot-com renewal. That's what every registrar really wanted to avoid. These companies also benefit greatly by speculative registartions, fueled by the trade in "aftermarket" domain names. This market would have collapsed if new TLD were to have succeeded, removing as much as a third of the value of these companies.
Congress is also interested in keeping the "A" root server in Virginia, because it makes cyberspace a place where an American trademark trumps an identical trademark from any other country. It is also interested in protecting the lead that America has by holding more memorable registrations than any other country.
WIPO is also interested in keeping the playing field tilted in favor of existing entities and against new competitors, so they want to keep new companies down by forcing them to choose complicated domain names. As well, having to argue that hundreds of generic companies such as Apple Corp. should have their Apple.farms and Apple.pies would bring scorn upon these companies and discredit the whole notion of trademark.
It has been a year since pre-registration has been open for these domains and the only serious website so far is the one by the American Handball Association, and who would want to set up in a TLD that has been so marred by scandal, anyway? Obviously, they'll conclude that the whole idea of new TLDs was nothing but the misguided meddling of a bunch of geeks.
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