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    Re: New Kid on the Block: XTNS
    by Anonymous on Wednesday August 15 2001, @01:06PM (#1856)

    In my opinion they stole the concept and the name.

    XNS Technology

    OneName® Corporation is the original developer of XNS (eXtensible Name Service), an open platform for exchanging XML data between disparate systems with privacy, security, and synchronization controls. The XNS platform allows people and businesses to automate, synchronize and control the use of information they exchange anywhere on the Internet with a high degree of confidence and trust.

    The XNS platform consists of three major components:

    Global Identity Management. Until now, the Internet has provided names and addresses for machines and data, such as computers, servers, phones, and web pages. XNS, on the other hand, provides global names and addresses for real-world identities-people and businesses. XNS identities are controlled exclusively by their owners, persist for a lifetime, and are portable anywhere within the XNS network. And, because XNS is based on XML, it is completely hardware-, software-, and network-independent. That means it can be used to authenticate the identity of any party for any transaction anywhere in the world.

    Privacy and Security Controls. XNS provides both a technical and legal solution for controlling the use of information shared by a person or a business. Whenever data is exchanged in XNS, it is "wrapped" inside an XML document that serves as a legally binding contract governing the privacy and security of that data. XNS provides a legal framework for enforcement of these contracts through XNS registration agreements governed by the independent non-profit XNS Public Trust Organization (XNSORG).

    Automated Data Exchange and Synchronization. Web agents are software applications that represent people or businesses on the Internet. The web agent technology underlying XNS does for information what credit cards do for payment-it reduces highly complex data exchange transactions to the simple push of a button. XNS agents can also take this automation one step further by remembering what information has been shared with whom so that updates to that information can be synchronized automatically. The result is a global network of trusted data exchange relationships spanning all applications and devices-person-to-person, person-to-business, and business-to-business.

    OneName has licensed the web agent technology underlying XNS to the XNS Public Trust Organization (XNSORG), which sets the technical, operational, and legal standards for XNS. As a result, XNS service can be offered by any type of online service provider, including ISPs, wireless carriers, portals, banks, insurance companies, and health care providers.

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    Re: New Kid on the Block: XTNS
    by Anonymous on Wednesday August 15 2001, @02:57PM (#1857)
    Yeah yeah...bindzero.com is still the only alternative answer. Not to be under-estimated they will grow and kick butt.

    They are the google of alternate domains!
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    Why we don't need realnames
    by simon on Thursday August 16 2001, @04:53AM (#1860)
    User #2982 Info | http://www.nic.pro/
    Because users have that habit to navigate through the internet by typing in http://www.anything.TLD.

    Even newbies know that they need to type in something.TLD

    And why do advanced users need a keyword?
    They know how and where to find appropriate information.
    Realnames take by far more time to resolve (test it by typing in "realnames"). Why should i wait 30 sec., when I can get the same information by typing in realnames.com?

    Now that I write this, it comes to my mind, that this could be a major disadvantage of the potential future domains from xtns.
    But maybe they can solve this problem like New.net did it?

    But one thing we have to think about it: Realnames and Microsoft together serves 88 % of the internet user. They could offer their own .com extension and 88% od the users would be automatically browsed to the Microsoft .coms!
    nic.PRO will be back online soon with FREE sub-domains. Dowload the FREE plug-in at
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    Re: New Kid on the Block: XTNS
    by simon on Thursday August 16 2001, @05:10AM (#1863)
    User #2982 Info | http://www.nic.pro/
    "Tell IBM or any other large corp. that this will reach only 88% of consumers and they would laugh you right out the door."

    This is possible. But why don't they laugh about .biz and .info?
    Only estimated 90 to 95% will reach the icann version of the .biz and .info domains!

    nic.PRO will be back online soon with FREE sub-domains. Dowload the FREE plug-in at
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    Re: New Kid on the Block: XTNS
    by simon on Thursday August 16 2001, @09:37AM (#1865)
    User #2982 Info | http://www.nic.pro/
    that's what NS admin wrote:

    ...As far as collisions are concerned, the XTNS technology will not (so far as I can tell), take priority over any alternative root currently in operation on a user's computer. Internet Explorer only loads up the search page (which is, I believe, how RealNames is contacted) after a name is rejected by DNS. Please, anyone who has contrary information, let me know; I'm certainly not an expert in this area.

    Whether XTNS, or any other company, will in the long run be a threat to NameSlinger, only time will tell. But we won't go down without a fight!...

    The danger here is that MS explorer be changed to not give precedence to DNS resolution.nic.PRO will be back online soon with FREE sub-domains. Dowload the FREE plug-in at
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    Na na Michael, XTNS isn't that big dragon...
    by Anonymous on Thursday August 16 2001, @11:19AM (#1867)
    it's only a press release.

    There is a bit of discussion in several spots on the message board about a new company, XTNS, that seems to be marketing a naming system that is strikingly similar to New.net. We recently became aware of XTNS but have had some difficulty finding out anything about them. The address they had previously listed on their Web site as their "world headquarters" turned out to be a mailbox in the back of a Hallmark store in Pasadena, and people at the addresses they listed of other locations around the world had never heard of them. Mysteriously all of these points of contact have disappeared from their site. The only way you can find the Hallmark address now is via the Whois record posted in one of the threads on this message board. We're not sure if it's just one guy working out of his house or if there are others involved, either as employees, contractors or outsourced services providers. I've talked to reporters who have spoken to him, and he won't answer these questions or reveal anything about his financial backing, if any.

    As best as we can tell, they are attempting to piggyback traditional domain name conventions (something.something) onto the RealNames system in order to avoid having to deal with ICANN. The RealNames offering is quite clear and avoids direct comparison to the domain name system. Indeed, it works outside of DNS and does not work with non-browser protocols such as email and FTP. XTNS's claims that they are offering domain names and yet not working with the domain name system is inherently confusing. We doubt people will find this a very compelling offering. Further, their promise of some sort of email solution involving the browser address bar seems odd, to say the least. Any solution by necessity needs to allow a wide variety of client- and web-based email systems to send and receive messages, and that involves dealing with the DNS. So again, a lot of confusing promises and nothing concrete to show.

    Rest assured that we take every competitor seriously, including XTNS. But so far all they seem to have is a press release announcing a very weak deal with RealNames (what seems to be a non-exclusive deal to remarket a service RealNames announced a few weeks ago -- you could get one of these deals, too), they have no customers, and they're in hiding (they have no physical presence besides a PO box, the phones go to voicemail 24/7, their web site doesn’t actually do anything, and they won't acknowledge any employees or financial backers). We'll keep watching them in case they do come out of hiding, but in the meantime, we're going to keep pursuing an expanded user base, marketing relevant extensions, and creating a network of imaginative and vibrant web sites.

    As always, thanks for your continued support.

    Steve Chadima
    CMO, New.net
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