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    Re: New Kid on the Block: XTNS
    by Anonymous on Wednesday August 15 2001, @12:56PM (#1854)

    "xtns is clearly aimed at larger corporations"

    Tell IBM or any other large corp. that this will reach only 88% of consumers and they would laugh you right out the door.

    This does not work in Netscape, Opera or for that matter any non IE browser.

    I would have 2 main comments with this, Real Names after 3 years failed to attract any consumer interest and this version adds nothing "new", and most consumers see the .com .net .org as an internet or web address and just "text" as a search string (see netscape browsers or google).

    This is the main reason Real Names failed and this will be the same for xtns.

    It also seems to be a ripoff of XNS.org and OneName.com The least they could have done is be unique.

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    Re: New Kid on the Block: XTNS
    by Anonymous on Wednesday August 15 2001, @01:06PM (#1855)
    Realnames in the browser only works with Internet Explorer for Windows. Unix and Mac user are saved.
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    Re: New Kid on the Block: XTNS
    by Anonymous on Thursday August 16 2001, @05:02PM (#1875)
    Looks like your imagination is on steroids. Here is the response from new.net, taken from the New.net message board:

    There is a bit of discussion in several spots on the message board about a new company, XTNS, that seems to be marketing a naming system that is strikingly similar to New.net. We recently became aware of XTNS but have had some difficulty finding out anything about them. The address they had previously listed on their Web site as their "world headquarters" turned out to be a mailbox in the back of a Hallmark store in Pasadena, and people at the addresses they listed of other locations around the world had never heard of them. Mysteriously all of these points of contact have disappeared from their site. The only way you can find the Hallmark address now is via the Whois record posted in one of the threads on this message board. We're not sure if it's just one guy working out of his house or if there are others involved, either as employees, contractors or outsourced services providers. I've talked to reporters who have spoken to him, and he won't answer these questions or reveal anything about his financial backing, if any.

    As best as we can tell, they are attempting to piggyback traditional domain name conventions (something.something) onto the RealNames system in order to avoid having to deal with ICANN. The RealNames offering is quite clear and avoids direct comparison to the domain name system. Indeed, it works outside of DNS and does not work with non-browser protocols such as email and FTP. XTNS's claims that they are offering domain names and yet not working with the domain name system is inherently confusing. We doubt people will find this a very compelling offering. Further, their promise of some sort of email solution involving the browser address bar seems odd, to say the least. Any solution by necessity needs to allow a wide variety of client- and web-based email systems to send and receive messages, and that involves dealing with the DNS. So again, a lot of confusing promises and nothing concrete to show.

    Rest assured that we take every competitor seriously, including XTNS. But so far all they seem to have is a press release announcing a very weak deal with RealNames (what seems to be a non-exclusive deal to remarket a service RealNames announced a few weeks ago -- you could get one of these deals, too), they have no customers, and they're in hiding (they have no physical presence besides a PO box, the phones go to voicemail 24/7, their web site doesn’t actually do anything, and they won't acknowledge any employees or financial backers). We'll keep watching them in case they do come out of hiding, but in the meantime, we're going to keep pursuing an expanded user base, marketing relevant extensions, and creating a network of imaginative and vibrant web sites.

    As always, thanks for your continued support.

    Steve Chadima
    CMO, New.net

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    Re: Chadima Should Check His Facts
    by Anonymous on Thursday August 16 2001, @07:28PM (#1878)
    Strange you haven't met with XTNS Steve, most others in the industry have. And what a story you spin about missing offices and a lack of investors and employees! You are still in incubation stage yourselves in a corner of the idealab offices aren't you? (Still don't justify your own offices yet?) And from what my press contacts tell me, ironically YOU still refuse to answer questions as to whether you have any investors and if so what their names might be (did even idealab Capital Partners invest for instance? Certainly no clues on your website are there ... ).

    As to your mis-representation about XTNS' RealNames deal, how could you be further from the truth. From what we have been told, they have the exclusive and all RealNames was doing a few weeks back was pre-announcing the XTNS deal. Not announcing something anyone else would be able to participate in. Check for yourself if you doubt that. Nothing on their site? They are selling Corporate Domain Namespaces (as they call them) right now and all that you'd expect to be there is there for that purpose. So what's your point? That there are no second level domains for sale yet? Can't you read? They aren't starting that service yet.

    They are not in hiding Steve; perhaps you just wish they were. Oh, and by the way, they have been in business for at least about 4 months. That's when we first met with them about our deal with them.
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    Re: New Kid on the Block: XTNS
    by Anonymous on Thursday August 16 2001, @07:46PM (#1880)
    I'm sorry, and who are you?

    As anonymous, you could be Mickey Mouse for all we know. Your post is worth about as much.
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    New Kids on the Block (not the early '90s teen pop
    by dtobias (dan@tobias.name) on Friday August 17 2001, @05:56AM (#1897)
    User #2967 Info | http://domains.dan.info/

    I've updated my page on "Alternate Roots" to mention (and criticize) XTNS:

    Dan's Domain Site: Alternate Roots

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