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    Re: The XXX-piring Namespace - More Semantic Attac
    by fnord ({groy2k} {at} {yahoo.com}) on Sunday October 28 2001, @06:30PM (#3226)
    User #2810 Info
    A bit of follow-up. Perhaps being pressed for time, I mistakenly typed:
    that users time in their URL line
    which should read:
    that users type in their URL line
    I also neglected to point out another angle. At least as far back as last February Declan McCullagh and USA Today were reporting that Osama bin Laden and other terrorist organizations were using steganograpy, which is a method for hiding files within other files, for example a text file within a picture, perhaps on a porn site. Such a choice would make good sense, even with access to the server logs it would be difficult to decipher which hits on such high trafficked sites might be more meaningful. And just to bring my two recent submissions into some kind of closure, Bruce Shneier, from whom I borrowed the phrase semantic attacks, isn't very optimistic about the ability to stop such traffic. -g
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    Re: The XXX-piring Namespace - More Semantic Attac
    by Ron_Bennett on Sunday October 28 2001, @07:31PM (#3227)
    User #3011 Info | http://www.wyomissing.com/bennett/
    Relax...the adult industry has been using similar tactics with toll-free phone numbers for years...this is nothing new.

    If companies would pay their bills ONTIME they wouldn't lose their domains and thus wouldn't have such problems...Right?

    And the most important aspect being missed here is the fact that adult oriented companies actually make money using such tactics...NOW WHY IS THAT?? Think about it for a second...if one intends to reach website "company.com" and they somehow are redirected to "nudepixs.com" instead, one would expect they would LEAVE and correct their mistake...right? But it turns out that some people when misdirected for whatever reason, instead of leaving, they will actually whip out their credit card and SPEND MONEY on a website they didn't even intend to reach...and NO ONE FORCED them to do that. Right?

    I think it's high time for people to assume responsibility for their own actions - namely, renewing their domains on time...and lastly, why let expired domains go unused anyways...the adult industry helps maximize economy by recycling domains which helps registrars stay in business and in turn reduces the need to add more TLDs. A win win situation :-)
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    I'm not too concerned about this -- and here's why
    by Anonymous on Sunday October 28 2001, @08:06PM (#3228)
    First of all -- I don't have any kids. Why is it the public's responsibility to protect other people's children from porn? Why does ICANN, or the Government have to do something to stop this?

    I say it is the parent's responsibility to monitor this stuff. If you are a parent and you don't want your kids to be exposed to this stuff you have a couple of choices:

    1) Buy filtering software and use it! There are many pieces of software that can filter URLS, eliminate pop-up ads, and ad banners, and offer your kids a "safe" surfing experience.

    2) Sit with your young kids and monitor their travels on the Internet. If you give the kid a phone line and a computer in their room and don't pay attention to their surfing habits-- you (as a parent)are to blame not the porn sites.

    3) If you are a religious fanatic and don't want your kids exposed to ANYTHING -- take away their computer. It is a safe bet that the Amish don't have problems like this in their house.

    I have yet to see evidence that pornography in general is "harmful" to anyone. When I was a young kid I stumbled on my dad's Playboys -- and enjoyed every minute of it.

    As far as I know -- porn has been around for a LONG, LONG time (way before the camera was even invented) and yet somehow, society is still here. Go figure.

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    Re: The XXX-piring Namespace - More Semantic Attac
    by Anonymous on Monday October 29 2001, @01:48AM (#3230)

    You need to ask the Business Constituency.
    They represent the XXX (adult content) industry.

    Commercial and Business Entities:

    AsiaPac (.nz) - Grant Forsyth grant.forsyth@clear.co.nz
    Europe (.uk) - Philip Sheppard philip.sheppard@aim.be
    NorthA (.us) - Marilyn Cade mcade@att.com

    Many people use root servers that are located
    on their internal corporate internet. According
    to the BC, they want that stopped. Those servers
    could give people different results in different
    companies. For example, an .XXX TLD may cause
    people to be redirected to an internal site, as
    opposed to the XXX sites run by the BC.

    Over 50% of the traffic on the Internet is
    related to the Adult Content industry. That
    is essentially the same as the BC. The BC
    wants to make sure that when you click on
    some body part, on one of their sites, that
    you get the result they want you to see.
    They want a consistent response for the
    Adult Content they package.
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    Re: The XXX-piring Namespace - More Semantic Attac
    by fnord ({groy2k} {at} {yahoo.com}) on Thursday November 01 2001, @07:20PM (#3346)
    User #2810 Info
    At least one more expiring domain becomes a porn site, and as the prior owner let numerous desirable names expire, it might not be the only one. Quite an interesting article on that and other namespace sillyness here. -g
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    Re: The XXX-piring Namespace - More Semantic Attac
    by fnord ({groy2k} {at} {yahoo.com}) on Friday November 02 2001, @05:07AM (#3356)
    User #2810 Info
    An article and user comments on this from Afternic. -g
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