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    Re: Bits: Equity, Independence, France, and More
    by fnord (reversethis-{moc.oohay} {ta} {k2yorg}) on Sunday August 12 2001, @05:18PM (#1797)
    User #2810 Info
    Michael writes:
    simon sent in an item noting that new.net has partnered with Domainoo, a leading domain name registrar in France (and whose URL means "the name" in French).
    Just for clarification, it is le nom that means "the name" in French, and not Domainoo. I assume this is what Michael meant as the underlying link leads to lenom.com.

    Interestingly, when simon pointed this out recently I went to the site. I have now gone there again and a new and prominent link has appeared: Noms avec accents! [names with accents]. It points to a bestsrs.com URL, which is a site for register.com affiliates. My French is a little rusty so perhaps someone with a better grasp of la belle language could point me to where it says these domains are part of a testbed.

    I had originally followed simon's tip looking for evidence that domainoo/lenom were an ICANN accredited registrar. I saw no mention (admittedly without an exhaustive review of their site or a refresher course in French) of them being an ICANN accredited registrar. I also searched for them in vain here. There are any number of resellers (affiliates who are a level below the ICANN accredited registrars) out there who can presumably do pretty much as they please with regard to partnerships or claims or w.h.y., subject of course to the jurisdiction in which they are located. -g

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    Re: Bits: Equity, Independence, France, and More
    by simon on Tuesday August 14 2001, @03:07AM (#1816)
    User #2982 Info | http://www.nic.pro/
    Something I read at the ICANN forum (from bradtillis; mole from New.net informed me):

    Hello José. I have heard many similar complaints from many people regarding this particular registrar, 5007-TU.
    If you look up some generic names at Afilias through the whois there, you will find many names registered by this same registrar with unknown tm and 2040 date. There are also many names with just fake information. I have been informed by many people that this registrar sent out emails trying to convince registrants prior to the start of sunrise to not use the landrush but instead to submit all their names into the sunrise with that registrar because Afilias is not checking apps and because no one will challenge because they have nothing to gain and will even have to pay a fee.

    Here is a small part of an email a few people have sent me:


    Why not! Did you know that during land rush your
    odds of getting any of your names is less than 5% with
    any registrar! However during sunrise your odds
    through **** is as high as 80%. Why?
    Because the registry is not policing sunrise

    You must ask yourself: Is it worth $105.00 to
    register and another $220.00 if challenged?

    The answer is clear when you weigh it against NOT
    having the name at all. Because you can bet at
    landrush the name will be gone, or you will be left
    with only a 5% chance of success in obtaining your
    **** is making good on its promise to
    register domains at the earliest possible moment.
    That time is sunrise. Remember anyone can register at
    sunrise. The people that should definitely NOT
    register at sunrise are those that want to register a
    name with a trademark.

    More importantly, a challenger CANNOT take your domain
    from you. A
    challenger can only have your domain sent back to the
    domain pool.
    again, this means a challenger has little reason to
    challenge other
    than on
    principal AND if they have expendable income to the
    tune of $295 per
    challenge. Would you challenge a non-trademark holder
    for $295 just so
    can no longer own pingpong.info?

    This blatantly shows that the problem here is with Afilias's sunrise polices. nic.PRO will be back online soon with FREE sub-domains. Dowload the FREE plug-in at
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