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    SANNA, Still another new.net announcement
    by fnord (groy2kNO@SPAMyahoo.com) on Wednesday August 08 2001, @11:11PM (#1724)
    User #2810 Info
    In addition to the press release I submitted above, there was also this less conspicuous release on new.net's message board. Some snippets:
    On August 8, 2001 [...] we are changing the price for all New.net domain names to $35 per year. This change brings our pricing in line with industry standards for other domain names [...
    For those unaware, the price of new.net names to date has been $25. While $35 is what NSI charges for .com SLDs, it can hardly be considered an industry standard. While some have previously accused new.net of dishonesty, I have never found any of their public comments to be less than truthful (which is not to say they aren't occasionally mistaken). The above statement, however, strikes me as being misleading.
    ...] our base of users with access to New.net domain names [is] over 60 million, and we plan to top 100 million before the end of the year. [...
    100 million is a number that ICANN cannot put down to a lunatic fringe. See here for a story regarding new.net that puts that number in global perspective.

    OTOH, without many valid destinations, most of those 'users' would have no reason to go to a new.net domain. I've had the plugin installed since day one and have never gone to a new.net domain other than for testing purposes. I've had no reason to...followed no hyperlinks to...received no email from...seen no search engine listings for...et cetera... new.net domains. I suspect that most of that impressive number of eyeballs would not blink, let alone be disenfranchised, if new.net names were to cease to be available, for whatever reason.

    This is the Achilles' heel of all alternative roots, without global accessibility there is no reason for most to provide unique content there, particularily when one can provide it in the ICANN namespace with relative ease. And without unique content there is no compelling reason for anyone to visit. This is why I see the possibility of non-English and ultimately non-Roman domains (including unique content) as a wild card in the equation. If new.net can make inroads in the new colonies of the information age, and ICANN enjoys only tepid support at home in the US, even less in the hinterland, then we may yet have a horserace (with apologies to Dan).

    ...] we will continue to extend to you the original $25 annual fee at the point of your next renewal. [...] There are a few situations in which your eligibility to renew at the original price will no longer hold. [...] several other companies are now offering New.net names for sale, and we expect many more registrars to do so over the next few months. If you choose at some point in the future to transfer your name to another registrar, you will of course be subject to their pricing options. [...]

    David Hernand
    CEO
    New.net

    Other registrars??? Hmmm. There are four Domain Sales Partners listed including:

    1. Afternic, which originally refused to list new.net domains, and which is owned by ICANN accredited registrar register.com. A link for new.net is displayed on Afternic's home page, and they did (do?) include new.net in their top of the fold banner rotation.

    2. mp3.com, which some ICANN acolytes might find interesting due to founder and CEO Michael Robertson's history of alleged cybersquatting. There is no obvious link to new.net off their homepage.

    3. Earthlink, which recently inked an exclusivity deal with register.com. Again there is no obvious link to new.net off their homepage.

    4. .kids, whose homepage prominently features new.net. They are a member of the Internet Content Rating Association, an organization which includes a number of individual and group names not unfamiliar to ICANN watchers.

    This mix, which shows that new.net is perhaps not so far out on the fringe as some in ICANN might prefer, brings up an intriguing possibility. What if an ICANN accredited registrar offers new.net names? Register.com is arguably already doing so. ICANN isn't on the best of terms with its ccTLD constituency (amongst others), can it afford to play the heavy with registrars? Given their hands off attitude to date despite some really questionable, even odious, behavior by some registrars, one suspects not. New.net may not have the legs to win a horserace, particularily if it is fixed, but there are increasing signs some players are betting on it to place or show. -g

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    Re: SANNA, Still another new.net announcement
    by fnord (groy2kNO@SPAMyahoo.com) on Wednesday August 08 2001, @11:22PM (#1725)
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    I seem to have again been bitten by the tag span bug. Following is what shows as truncated, on my system at least (pls. complain to that redundancy department if it appears twice on yours)...-g
    _________________________

    4. .kids, whose homepage prominently features new.net. They are a member of the Internet Content Rating Association, an organization which includes a number of individual and group names not unfamiliar to ICANN watchers.

    This mix, which shows that new.net is perhaps not so far out on the fringe as some in ICANN might prefer, brings up an intriguing possibility. What if an ICANN accredited registrar offers new.net names? Register.com is arguably already doing so. ICANN isn't on the best of terms with its ccTLD constituency (amongst others), can it afford to play the heavy with registrars? Given their hands off attitude to date despite some really questionable, even odious, behavior by some registrars, one suspects not. New.net may not have the legs to win a horserace, particularily if it is fixed, but there are increasing signs some players are betting on it to place or show. -g

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    Re: SANNA, Still another new.net announcement
    by fnord (groy2kNO@SPAMyahoo.com) on Friday August 10 2001, @12:57PM (#1777)
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    Dell.info is probably what is called a defensive registration so that it isn't taken by someone else, for example, someone apparently named Dell, or a farmer in the dell, or even [shudder, dare I say it] a cybersquatter. Dell.info doesn't lead anywhere, either with the plugin or with the dell.info.new.net extension, though it would be a relatively simple matter to mirror or redirect to what is at dell.com.

    While I'm not suggesting this was intentional, new.net can be seen as a protection racket in a sense, as can a number of ICANN accredited registrars who are quick to point out that one's name should be protected across all extensions. New.net's Sunrise provision is along the same lines, if you want to challenge for your own protection you'll have to pay for it. Such is the consequence of a flat, undifferentiated namespace, first brought to us by NSI, and we're all still paying for it in one way or another.

    The only big name entity I have seen with a new.net name (through viewing new.net's featured sites) that actually works is Maxim magazine at maxim.free [if you have the plugin, ISP, or manual settings, if not, click here]. That isn't much of a posterkid example for new.net either, as it seems to be only a redirect to maximonline.com, the latter being the name given on the cover and inside the real magazine as their address, and besides, what exactly does maxim.free mean? I saw no obvious evidence of them trying to give away magazines there, though magazines often do engage in that practice. One wonders (not bothering to look) whether sex.free is a site about celibacy. We humans are a strange lot, we go from an unintuitive IP address to a counterintuitive name and consider it progress.

    As to whom is sans a clue, your advert links don't point to your sex.* sites, either with the plugin or without, as they are mistyped. You might want to look into it before you enter them in the new.net site contest. I think the contest is a good idea and should be enlarged considerably. As I've said all along, what new.net needs is unique content, for example, instead of book.shop [new.net enabled here ] [new.net not enabled here] simply taking you to half.com, they could swing a deal with ebay whereby some content would only be available via new.net enablement. It has often been said: .com is King, but I'm not inclined to agree with him. To me, and I suspect most others, content is King. Le Roi est morte! Vive le Roi! -g

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    1. Registrar that sells ICANN-accredited Domains n
    by simon on Sunday August 12 2001, @05:32AM (#1792)
    User #2982 Info | http://www.nic.pro/
    1. Registrar that sells ICANN-accredited Domains now sells New.net Domains in addition.

    http://www.lenom.com

    Now the dam is broken. Other registrars will most likely jump on board soon.
    Hey that's their job: selling domains, wether the the domains are good or bad. Look what they did with the multilingual domains. Can you access a multilingual domain or do you know any active sites? .info and .biz. is only a big money machine. Most sites will be most likely linked to a .com presence.
    money money money money money money money money money money

    "...Additionally, New.net has announced two partnerships within the European
    domain name industry. New.net's partnership with Domainoo
    (http://www.lenom.com), a leading domain name registrar in France, will enable
    its customers to search for and register New.net domain names on its homepage...."nic.PRO will be back online soon with FREE sub-domains. Dowload the FREE plug-in at
    www.name-space.com/software
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