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    SANNA, Still another new.net announcement
    by fnord (groy2kNO@SPAMyahoo.com) on Wednesday August 08 2001, @11:11PM (#1724)
    User #2810 Info
    In addition to the press release I submitted above, there was also this less conspicuous release on new.net's message board. Some snippets:
    On August 8, 2001 [...] we are changing the price for all New.net domain names to $35 per year. This change brings our pricing in line with industry standards for other domain names [...
    For those unaware, the price of new.net names to date has been $25. While $35 is what NSI charges for .com SLDs, it can hardly be considered an industry standard. While some have previously accused new.net of dishonesty, I have never found any of their public comments to be less than truthful (which is not to say they aren't occasionally mistaken). The above statement, however, strikes me as being misleading.
    ...] our base of users with access to New.net domain names [is] over 60 million, and we plan to top 100 million before the end of the year. [...
    100 million is a number that ICANN cannot put down to a lunatic fringe. See here for a story regarding new.net that puts that number in global perspective.

    OTOH, without many valid destinations, most of those 'users' would have no reason to go to a new.net domain. I've had the plugin installed since day one and have never gone to a new.net domain other than for testing purposes. I've had no reason to...followed no hyperlinks to...received no email from...seen no search engine listings for...et cetera... new.net domains. I suspect that most of that impressive number of eyeballs would not blink, let alone be disenfranchised, if new.net names were to cease to be available, for whatever reason.

    This is the Achilles' heel of all alternative roots, without global accessibility there is no reason for most to provide unique content there, particularily when one can provide it in the ICANN namespace with relative ease. And without unique content there is no compelling reason for anyone to visit. This is why I see the possibility of non-English and ultimately non-Roman domains (including unique content) as a wild card in the equation. If new.net can make inroads in the new colonies of the information age, and ICANN enjoys only tepid support at home in the US, even less in the hinterland, then we may yet have a horserace (with apologies to Dan).

    ...] we will continue to extend to you the original $25 annual fee at the point of your next renewal. [...] There are a few situations in which your eligibility to renew at the original price will no longer hold. [...] several other companies are now offering New.net names for sale, and we expect many more registrars to do so over the next few months. If you choose at some point in the future to transfer your name to another registrar, you will of course be subject to their pricing options. [...]

    David Hernand
    CEO
    New.net

    Other registrars??? Hmmm. There are four Domain Sales Partners listed including:

    1. Afternic, which originally refused to list new.net domains, and which is owned by ICANN accredited registrar register.com. A link for new.net is displayed on Afternic's home page, and they did (do?) include new.net in their top of the fold banner rotation.

    2. mp3.com, which some ICANN acolytes might find interesting due to founder and CEO Michael Robertson's history of alleged cybersquatting. There is no obvious link to new.net off their homepage.

    3. Earthlink, which recently inked an exclusivity deal with register.com. Again there is no obvious link to new.net off their homepage.

    4. .kids, whose homepage prominently features new.net. They are a member of the Internet Content Rating Association, an organization which includes a number of individual and group names not unfamiliar to ICANN watchers.

    This mix, which shows that new.net is perhaps not so far out on the fringe as some in ICANN might prefer, brings up an intriguing possibility. What if an ICANN accredited registrar offers new.net names? Register.com is arguably already doing so. ICANN isn't on the best of terms with its ccTLD constituency (amongst others), can it afford to play the heavy with registrars? Given their hands off attitude to date despite some really questionable, even odious, behavior by some registrars, one suspects not. New.net may not have the legs to win a horserace, particularily if it is fixed, but there are increasing signs some players are betting on it to place or show. -g

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    Re: SANNA, Still another new.net announcement
    by fnord (groy2kNO@SPAMyahoo.com) on Wednesday August 08 2001, @11:22PM (#1725)
    User #2810 Info
    I seem to have again been bitten by the tag span bug. Following is what shows as truncated, on my system at least (pls. complain to that redundancy department if it appears twice on yours)...-g
    _________________________

    4. .kids, whose homepage prominently features new.net. They are a member of the Internet Content Rating Association, an organization which includes a number of individual and group names not unfamiliar to ICANN watchers.

    This mix, which shows that new.net is perhaps not so far out on the fringe as some in ICANN might prefer, brings up an intriguing possibility. What if an ICANN accredited registrar offers new.net names? Register.com is arguably already doing so. ICANN isn't on the best of terms with its ccTLD constituency (amongst others), can it afford to play the heavy with registrars? Given their hands off attitude to date despite some really questionable, even odious, behavior by some registrars, one suspects not. New.net may not have the legs to win a horserace, particularily if it is fixed, but there are increasing signs some players are betting on it to place or show. -g

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    Re: SANNA, Still another new.net announcement
    by Anonymous on Thursday August 09 2001, @06:57AM (#1746)
    Something all forget it here:

    Domain Business is a big dollar maschine.

    registrations in .com declines, and the number of expired domains will bigger than the number of registered domains in the near future.
    All the good .coms are already registered. Therefore the domain sellers must sell something new. See the multilingual domains, .tv, .ws, .mu, .cc, .md, .fm...
    The registrars must sell domains to earn money! Therefore they will also sell New.net domains, if new.net gives them enough money. (New.net raised their prices from $25 to $35, maybe because of the registrars and the ISPs) So they will sell New.net domains wheter they are 3.level domains or not. Look what the registrars did with the multilingual domains!
    They sold domains, but they aren't resolvable until now. Selling New.net Domains wouldn't be bader, even better.

    Also the ISPs smell the money!
    Did the ISP get money from ICANN to reolving their Domains? NO!! New.net will give them money and ISPs will join the New.net, because their aim is to make money.

    Money makes the world go round! Understand it!

    Regards,
    Simon Steinle
    steinle@smartvia.de
    http://www.sex.shop
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    Re: SANNA, Still another new.net announcement
    by Anonymous on Thursday August 09 2001, @10:33AM (#1756)
    While $35 ism't the standard price, it is a reasonable demand becuase of the exhorbitany amounts of money new.net must pay ISPs and plug-in distribution partners as well as overwhelming costs to market alternative TLDs. In addition this price discourges hording..
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