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    Security and Stability
    by Anonymous on Monday October 22 2001, @05:27PM (#3085)

    Security and Stability for the ICANN Board means less, not more. They seem to take the view that
    you put all your eggs in one basket and then you
    watch that one basket very carefully. They clearly
    trust that Verisign will write them a check each
    month. The ensures their stable job security, their
    real concern.
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    Re: Verisign Unchained
    by JohnR (yes@fakemail.com) on Monday October 22 2001, @06:07PM (#3087)
    User #2937 Info
    I would like to hope that the network will be teared down soon. In such case, every net firm can start again with another system that exclude networksolutions.com and verisign.

    The government should be sued to have made such a monster.

    God Bless America!
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    Re: Verisign Unchained
    by Anonymous on Tuesday October 23 2001, @04:42AM (#3091)

    As usual, Verisign is trying to distract people's
    attention away from where they are really putting
    their efforts.
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    Re: Verisign Unchained
    by Anonymous on Tuesday October 23 2001, @04:46AM (#3092)
    October 28 - 31, 2001
    Miami, Florida, US
    The Public Policy and Members Meetings of ARIN VIII will be held October 28-31, 2001, in downtown Miami, Florida, US, at the Biscayne Bay Marriott Hotel.
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    Re: Verisign Unchained
    by Anonymous on Tuesday October 23 2001, @05:20AM (#3094)

    ICANN is planning a meeting on Security and Stability. ICANN and Verisign do not want people to
    see see or hear about ways to really make the
    Internet Secure and Stable. ICANN and Verisign
    will make sure that the program is 100% people
    who speak their party line which is that ICANN
    and Verisign are the only people on Earth who
    can be trusted. All of the clueless ICANN followers
    and watchers will all sit their nodding their heads
    and return to tell everyone "it was a very productive

    The post-meeting Press Releases are probably
    already written:

    Stuart Lynn - "We had a very productive meeting
    gathering together all of the world's experts on
    Internet Security and the top executives from all
    of the major companies for a week of dialogue
    that will ensure a stable Internet for all people.
    Vint Cerf, the father of the Internet, lead the

    Vint Cerf - "Stuart Lynn and the other ICANN
    leaders need to be commended for hosting an
    important meeting regarding the Security and
    Stability of the Internet. All of the key people,
    from around the world participated, and we
    made great progress in making the net secure."

    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    Re: Verisign Unchained
    by Anonymous on Tuesday October 23 2001, @05:32AM (#3096)
    "Yes, he means this network -- the Internet."

    What is "the Internet" ?
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    Re: Verisign Unchained
    by Anonymous on Tuesday October 23 2001, @06:16AM (#3097)

    It is humerous that neither Affilias or TuCows are
    running the .INFO TLD, Nominum is. Nominum was
    never mentioned in the ICANN proposals or contracts.
    Does Verisign own Nominum ?
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    Afilias's changes were expected
    by Anonymous on Tuesday October 23 2001, @10:56AM (#3101)
    There were a number of changes to applications that caused ICANN to disqualify them out of hand.

    But when Afilias makes such sweeping changes, ICANN turns a blind eye. Why do you suppose that is? Perhaps ICANN is not concerned with what Afilias does, but just that they intended to approve them all along?

    ICANN is very good at using the same event to condemn one thing while praising another.

    Afilias changes all of their vendors, creates a registry that has no relationship to the one they proposed, is vastly underpowered, has been down more than up, has no redundant data centers... the list goes on and on.

    No, it's clear that Afilias went into this knowing that they'd be approved. Their only mistake was in reaching too far, and trying to get .WEB. But that was a risk that they could afford to take, knowing that they were approved no matter what.

    What's going to hurt is when evidence of this is made public, proving that there was collusion. That's illegal any day of the week. Afilias is living on borrowed time.
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    Re: Verisign Unchained
    by Anonymous on Tuesday October 23 2001, @12:20PM (#3111)

    People will have to now wait for a couple more
    years for new TLDs. That will give Verisign time
    to buy up more of the new TLDs or the companies
    behind them.
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    Re: Verisign Unchained
    by Anonymous on Tuesday October 23 2001, @01:36PM (#3117)
    universal whois

    From: Mark Kosters
    Date: Tue Oct 23 13:00:38 2001



    Following our presentation at NANOG 23...

    VeriSign Applied Research has started to undertake a project called Universal
    Whois - aka uwho. The hope of this project is to attempt to create a better
    administrative lookup service for the various registries, registrars, and
    RIR's. Right now, we are in the requirements phase and would appreciate your
    input via the uwho@lists.verisignlabs.com mailing list (use the
    uwho-request thing to subscribe). The web site is located at
    http://uwho.verisignlabs.com which decribes the project in a bit
    more detail.



    Mark Kosters markk@netsol.com Verisign Applied Research

    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    by kodo (binaryloop@nospam.yahoo.com) on Wednesday October 24 2001, @09:08AM (#3133)
    User #21 Info | http://www.paradigm.nu/icann


    (watch Part I which was created in March/April 2001)

    - Kendall Dawson

    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    The Golden Vending Machine
    by Anonymous on Friday October 26 2001, @04:12AM (#3170)

    The Golden Vending Machine

    Verisign has a $180,000,000 per year .COM vending
    machine (Registry) that any company could operate
    for about $1,800,000 per year. That would make the
    wholesale cost of .COM names be 60 cents, not $6.

    1. Do you think Verisign wants to allow any
    companies to compete for that Registry Agreement ?

    2. Do you think ICANN would ever be able to
    change that ?

    3. Since ICANN is funded by Verisign, why would
    ICANN be motivated to change that ?

    4. Verisign now needs to make it look like that
    vending machine is getting old and needs to be
    upgraded, and guess what, ICANN will no doubt
    endorse those upgrades and INCREASE the fees.
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    .COM .NET and .ORG on Equal Footing
    by Anonymous on Friday October 26 2001, @04:22AM (#3172)

    Verisign and their hand-puppet ICANN, claimed
    last Spring that the reason why the Verisign
    contracts needed to be changed was to put
    .COM .NET and .ORG on an equal footing with
    all the other TLDs.

    If that is the case, where are all the reports
    for .COM that other TLDs are supposed to provide ?

    Will ICANN just forget about all of the reams of
    contract terms and let the registries off the hook
    as far as reports go ?
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    Re: Verisign Unchained
    by Anonymous on Monday October 29 2001, @08:04AM (#3239)

    EDUCAUSE has entered into a subcontract with VeriSign, Inc., to provide operational back-office registrar functions and registry services during the transition and first phase of the cooperative agreement.
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]

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