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    Re: The Ken Stubbs Issue
    by fnord (groy2kNO@SPAMyahoo.com) on Wednesday August 01 2001, @06:27PM (#1568)
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    Offtopic, and hardly news. As I said some months ago (Sat, 17 Mar 2001 16:32:10 -0500 as I recall), and it was stale then:

    It is well known that Ken Stubbs is to hats what Imelda Marcos was to shoes.

    It is also already well known that as a first attempt at world internet governance ICANN has taken her husband's reign as a working model (ICANN was originally going to be called First Virtual Banana Republic but changed it after strenuous objections from the trademark lobby). So it is no surprise that we get such as the Stubbs situation and nothing is done about it. Who could do something and what should they do for starters?

    As with the Marcos regime, the opposition to ICANN is hampered by being split among numerous ever shifting factions. IMHO this is due in part to few being able to cogently and coherently describe a credible alternative around which the opposition can coalesce (just being critical, while it is as easy as shooting whales in a barrel with ICANN, gets us nowhere). Karl is one of the few who is able to describe such an alternative model if people take the time to listen, and that is why the rush to marginalize him is on.

    If you come to bury Cavebear, I come to praise him. My MAL vote went to Barbara and Karl in that order because I thought that Barbara might be a bit more...well...not more conciliatory (look where that got us, you might as well shake hands with an electric eel), but perhaps less abrasive. My only beef with Karl now is he isn't being abrasive enough. I wouldn't have gotten bumped offline like that in Stockholm with the whole world web watching (well, you know what I mean) without either a) resorting to parliamentary procedures to try to tie it in knots, or b) engaging in some guerilla theatre to further focus the media. But it is to his credit that he just kept making the points that needed to be made, maintaining more good humor than most would under the circumstances.

    Et tu Icannwatch. Cut the guy some slack. If there had been elections for nine seats Barbara could well have been there as well as another one or two of the clued and critical and it might be a different story (still a minority, but enough to use the process to some extent, and more difficult to marginalize), which is precisely why we didn't see those other four seats up for grabs, and won't.

    Despite my mention of procedure above, surely lawyers are aware just how hamstrung Karl is. How much can you expect one person to do against the Joe 'Svengali' Sims manufactured artificial consensus juggernaut? Given the circumstances Karl has exceeded my expectations so far. I look forward to him continuing to be the calm voice of reason and sanity, even if it only makes sense to future historians watching the full Montevideo. -g

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