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    Re: Afilias Says .info Is Working Now
    by Anonymous on Thursday October 04 2001, @07:04AM (#2735)
    My gaping asshole it is.
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    Re: Afilias Says .info Is Working Now
    by Anonymous on Thursday October 04 2001, @07:21AM (#2737)
    Ya, right! Sure, we believe you now.
    Hurry, come and register a lousy, leftover name that wasn't already taken by a fraudulent trademark application.

    Dotster.com and NameBargain are not registering in real time right now. I'm not convinced.

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    Re: Afilias Says .info Is Working Now
    by Anonymous on Thursday October 04 2001, @11:20AM (#2742)
    Yeah, the registrars are taking "realtime" registrations. The problem is that those registrations are not showing up in the Afilias whois.

    The employees and board members at Afilias are too busy building their own domain name portfolios, and not much concerned about running a registry.
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    Re: Afilias Says .info Is Working Now
    by Anonymous on Thursday October 04 2001, @11:26AM (#2743)
    Additionally, no changes can be made.

    A domain registered today will not be able to have the name servers changed.

    There's no timetable as to when this will be added.

    In other words, Afilias is running an incomplete registry. They only take registrations. You cannot delete, modify, transfer or anything else. All you can do is squat on a name.

    The truth here is shocking. Not only has Afilias not implemented the technical plan that they submitted to ICANN, they also have not even fielded a complete registry!

    This is what happens when you give gifts to insiders, and incompetant insiders at that.
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    Re: Afilias Says .info Is Working Now
    by Anonymous on Thursday October 04 2001, @06:38PM (#2751)

    People have to be patient.

    .INFO is part of the ICANN Proof-of-Concept experiments.

    .INFO is being run by lawyers, not computer or network experts.

    ICANN is also being run by lawyers. The entire
    Registrar/Registry structure is a classic multi-level-marketing
    fanchise structure designed to take years to
    deploy and to keep a few lawyers well paid for
    years.

    Don't draw any conclusions about how unstable
    the Internet is based on the ICANN .INFO experiments.

    Keep in mind that a large population of new customers
    will now think they have a .INFO name.
    Little do they know, they only have a .INFO
    name on the ICANN-run experimental Internet.
    They will have to protect their .INFO name on
    Next Generation Internets, if they intend to make
    it widely useable. That will not cost them much
    additional money per year.

    The sum total of .INFO domain name owners defines
    the .INFO community. No one can make them
    disappear. They exist because of their common
    bond to use .INFO names. It is unlikely that every
    human on earth will think they have to have such
    a name. Once there are more than 50,000 .INFO
    name owners, it becomes commercially viable to
    have a real .INFO registry, infrastructure, etc. on
    the Next Generation Internet. .INFO may make it
    some day, once this Proof-of-Concept attracts
    enough people.
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    Re: Afilias Says .info Is Working Now
    by Anonymous on Thursday October 04 2001, @10:51PM (#2754)

    Now that Asilliness has .INFO working, should
    they be given .WEB to run ?
    and .SHOP ?

    They could start with the New.Net .SHOP names
    and the IOD .WEB names and avoid any start-up
    overloads.

    If NSI has .COM, .NET and .ORG shouldn't
    the other ICANN Registries all have 3 TLDs ?

    What about all that legal noise early this year
    about making the contracts the same for NSI
    and the other Registries ?

    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    Re: Major Legal Issues?
    by Anonymous on Friday October 05 2001, @06:01AM (#2757)
    One comment I see repeated all over the web right now is people who say they have registered a .info name and it does not show in the WhoIs. Or that they have registered it many times in different places, with their registration (and presumably their money!) being taken each time. In some cases, there have been reports of some who have gained registration during the sunrise, had it confirmed via a registrar, and then found their name is free for them to register "live" the past few days.

    This sounds like a massive legal battle about to happen: who is the rightful owner of a given .info name? How does anyone track down who was the first to buy a given name if the database is not sync'ing as it should?

    Michael -- your thoughts on this?

    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    Re: Afilias Says .info Is Working Now
    by Anonymous on Friday October 05 2001, @07:08AM (#2759)
    Their latest statement on their whois:
    "The WHOIS database is currently being updated and may not reflect recent real-time registrations. If you have been awarded a .INFO name, your registrar can provide authoritative confirmation of this registration."

    Translation: Some make it in eventually, some don't. We'll probably get them in right eventually. We'll even let you do modification sometime before the names expire (why do you think we have a two year minimum?). By real-time we meant it will really take a lot of time.

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    Re: Afilias Says .info Is Working Now
    by Anonymous on Friday October 05 2001, @07:28AM (#2761)

    This is like the joke about the guy who drives
    up to the covienance store which has a big
    sign, OPEN 24 HOURS. He arrives just as the
    owner is turning out the lights and locking the
    doors. The guy says to the owner, "Hey, it says
    you are open 24 hours", and the owner quickly
    replies, "Yes, but not in a row".

    Read the fine print. The ICANN lawyers get paid
    a lot to write more and more of it each day and
    guess who is paying them ?
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    Re: Afilias Says .info Is Working Now
    by Anonymous on Friday October 05 2001, @12:20PM (#2762)
    Last two names from two different registrars did show up in the whois (eventually) but without the Name Server information entered. Silly me, that was kind of the point of registering the names.
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    Afilias Reserved Names
    by Anonymous on Friday October 05 2001, @12:48PM (#2763)
    I registered a .info name, received an invoice from my registrar and verified the name was registered to me in the Afilias whois. It properly showed me as the registrant.

    Hours later it now shows the registrant as AFILIAS!
    Basically the record has no mention of me anymore and has been replaced with Afilias information.

    I am trying to figure out why they removed me from the record!

    Can anyone point me to a listing of Afilias reserved domains?

    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    Re: Afilias Says .info Is Working Now
    by Anonymous on Sunday October 07 2001, @06:09PM (#2769)
    Still unable to make name server entries/changes.
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    Re: Afilias Says .info Is Working Now
    by Anonymous on Saturday October 13 2001, @03:34AM (#2876)
    whois is NOT working.

    What a travesty.
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]


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