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    Re: Another reader's comment on Stuart Lynn's uniq
    by Anonymous on Tuesday July 10 2001, @05:27PM (#1151)

    ICANN will likely have to split into two camps.

    Bildt, Dyson, Cerf and even Karl Auerbach, think
    they are building some sort of new world government.
    Read the transcripts from when Cerf used to
    captivate the Whitehouse audiences at the
    invitation of Bill and Hillary. Be very afraid...

    Meanwhile, ICANN is a business essentially run
    by Verisign and their new side-kick (in Virginia)
    NeuSign or Neusance or something like that...
    Joe Sims will stick close to that money flow
    and run the business with Louis Twoton.

    British-born Stuart Lynn will have to decide
    whether his retirement part-time job at ICANN
    is more interesting being a new world government
    or being the basis for a non-profit converted to
    for-profit and an IPO, it appears he will go with
    the new world government crowd.

    This leaves the ICANN staff to work the IPO
    behind the scenes in order to ensure their
    retirements, 401Ks, etc. Andrew and Theresea
    and some of the other staff, should be able to
    convince Joe and Louis to do the needed
    paperwork to allow ICANN (aka Verisign) to be
    set free to compete with New.Net.

    King Carl and Queen Esther can then take the
    IANA banner and head off with Vint, Karl and
    Stuart to form their new world government with
    the ccTLDs eating the crumbs they are tossed.
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    Re: Another reader's comment on Stuart Lynn's uniq
    by Anonymous on Tuesday July 10 2001, @07:16PM (#1154)
    I don't think it is fair to assail Ben so harshly. He undertook to gather information and that's what he did. And like most things done by fallable humans there was room for improvement.

    Ben's work invites a follow-on effort (by Ben or anyone else) to redress the shortcomings with additional data.

    Ben's work also deserves a "thank you" from the community.
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    Re: Another reader's comment on Stuart Lynn's uniq
    by Anonymous on Tuesday July 10 2001, @07:20PM (#1155)

    In summary

    IANA - New World Government

    King - Carl Bildt
    Queen - Esther Dyson

    Royal Loyal Subjects
    Stuart Lynn
    Vint Cerf
    Karl Auerbach
    ccTLD Managers

    -----------------------------

    ICANN - The .COM Registry

    Andrew McCEO
    Louis Twoton VP
    Joe Slim
    Theresa Bigheart
    Ben Diddleman
    Chuck Gomez
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    Re: Another reader's comment on Stuart Lynn's uniq
    by Anonymous on Wednesday July 11 2001, @02:22AM (#1162)

    The .COM Registry is the BIG PRIZE

    Note all the legal work that went into making it
    available to be taken over by the legal team.

    Note how no one wants to talk about the $6
    per year COMmerce tax.

    The .COM Registry funds the ICANN machine.

    The .COM Registry is a THIN Registry with a
    FAT bank account.

    Joe and Louis have their eyes on the .COM Registry,
    that should be obvious to the casual reader.
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    Re: Another reader's comment on Stuart Lynn's uniq
    by Anonymous on Wednesday July 11 2001, @07:18AM (#1168)

    While people were not noticing, the .STreet TLD
    has been taking shape.

    http://www.NIC.ST

    Yet another commercial TLD for Wall.St to exploit.
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    Something Else Used to be Here
    by michael (froomkin@lawUNSPAM.tm) on Wednesday July 11 2001, @09:24AM (#1174)
    User #4 Info | http://www.discourse.net/
    I have deleted a comment in this thread on the grounds that it was vile and repulsive. Our FAQ states our policy on deleting posts. I think this is the third post I have deleted since we switched to a system allowing unlimited unmoderated posting. I regret the necessity.
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    Re: Another reader's comment on Stuart Lynn's uniq
    by Anonymous on Wednesday July 11 2001, @11:15AM (#1176)

    I find the amount of conspiracy theories around here amazing.

    Can't you even imagine that someone may just be curious to understand what the claims put forth by some of the alternative roots actually mean? 24000 registered domains sound like quite a lot, and they sound like there is a large user base behind these domains (user, not registrant!). So the question how many of these domains are actually up and running is certainly a valid one.

    It's, in particular, the very question I've been asking myself after Ben had published his .biz findings. I donwloaded .web's zone file, ran a few awk scripts against it, and did some checks. Very quickly, some image of what .web really is was evolving. I then suggested to Ben that .web could be a worthwile object of more research.

    I may not have been the only one to make this suggestion. But please note that not everything which doesn't paint the alternative roots in the most friendly colours ever has to be some conspiracy-powered mud-slinging.

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    Re: Another reader's comment on Stuart Lynn's uniq
    by Anonymous on Wednesday July 11 2001, @12:18PM (#1182)

    There is no problem for companies that have a
    solid SLD.BIZ name.

    They can register NOW in one of the .BIZ registries,
    and TEST their SLD.BIZ site, mail, etc.

    If the U.S. Government gets around to allowing
    their SLD.BIZ name to be published on the U.S.
    Government's Internet, then they (the SLD.BIZ
    owners) are ahead of the game.

    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    Re: Another reader's comment on Stuart Lynn's uniq
    by Anonymous on Wednesday July 11 2001, @01:50PM (#1188)

    The TLDA can advise ICANN

    http://www.TLDA.org

    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    Re: Another reader's comment on Stuart Lynn's uniq
    by Anonymous on Wednesday July 11 2001, @02:00PM (#1190)
    http://www.planet.nl/pmm/0,1674,101_1498_140015,00.html


    Ministry intervenes in domain names

    What was expected for months, becomes reality: the full autonomy of the
    market in the assignment of domain names in the Netherlands will be
    terminated. The ministry of Transport, Public Works and Water management
    will start supervision.
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    Re: Another reader's comment on Stuart Lynn's uniq
    by Anonymous on Wednesday July 11 2001, @02:04PM (#1192)
    http://www.pso.icann.org/PSO_GA_2001/PSO_GA_HOME.htm

    ICANN overview and PSO Topics
    (Hans Kraaijenbrink, ICANN Director &
    Helmut Schink, ICANN Director)
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]


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