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    Off with its head
    by Anonymous on Tuesday February 26 2002, @12:58PM (#5086)
    This is a judicious evaluation of ICANN's "Stuart revolution" (yes, the reference to King Charles I is deliberate, I hope no one, uh, loses their head about it).

    But isn't the most practical solution to ICANN's problems now to get rid of the specific people who have broken faith with the Internet community so many times before, people who are clearly hostile to the limited and consensus-based regime you propose?

    Most failures of ICANN are directly attributable to the ironclad determination of ICANN's original management and its hand-picked Board majority to resist accountability and a balance of power among factions, and to impose regulations on the Internet. It doesn't matter how we restructure things as long as those people are in charge. Nothing they say can be trusted. No implementation of "limits" on ICANN's mission will ever work if the people who operate the corporation are charged with interpreting and implementing them.

    Stuart Lynn should resign. Joe Sims should be booted out. Lesser staff members who are less problematical but who follow their orders must also go. The whole culture of the old gang who persist in hanging on - Dyson, Roberts - must be broken up. We do indeed need a fresh start.
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    On target
    by Anonymous on Tuesday February 26 2002, @01:20PM (#5087)
    From the report:

    Create minimum technical and functional criteria for new TLDs, and publish a schedule for acting on new applications. This will relieve the pressure created by the perception that ICANN has no plans to open up the name space to new competitors. It will make clear that ICANN does not seek to prevent competition or to create artificial scarcity on which it can base subjective rulemaking powers.

    What he said.
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    Re: Focusing ICANN 2.0
    by Anonymous on Wednesday February 27 2002, @10:14AM (#5102)
    Susan, I agree with many points you make in your paper.
    What I don't understand is, however, why you are absolutely
    silent about the At Large Membership. Are you perhaps implying
    that it doesn't really matter that much whether governments or
    individual users are represented on the board provided that ICANN gets its
    mission defined in the way you propose?

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    Re: Focusing ICANN 2.0 - Or is ICANN 2.0 needed?
    by Anonymous on Wednesday February 27 2002, @11:54AM (#5103)
    INEGroup has long been an advocate or consensus based policy
    determination. As such this article leaves out some important
    sepcifics as to how such a process is effected. Indeed
    it is necessary that "Measured Consensus" will make
    the final determination if a consensus has been reached.
    I did not see or read of such in this article/essay.

    Power and money.

    This Essay/article went into some brief detail as to
    Stuarts Lynn's most recent restructuring of ICANN
    with respec to to it not having enough power or money to
    do its job effectively. ICANN does not need more money
    IOHO, rather it needs more acceptance through consensus
    that is measured by stakeholders voting on policy
    initiatives, bottoms-up. Money is the key element
    in policy making power, to be sure, but ICANN's current
    budget is more than adaquate to effect it's mandate.
    However to litigimize the 501 (c3) status, ICANN
    must gain more of it's budget from a membership
    organization, hence the need for an At-Large with
    membership dues as part of that solution. At one
    time such an At-Large existed and Board members
    were elected by it. Yet for a number of questionable
    reasons that At-Large was disbanded directly after those
    elections of Board members. Many participants and/or
    stakeholders have voiced a strong concern that this was
    a result of whom was elected to the Board rather than
    trying to fix the membership registration and voting
    application problems that did exist. Hence now
    new efforts are underway to rebuild the At-Large
    from outside the ICANN existing structure a la
    the Atlargeforum.org Mailing list discussing this

    In any event, we [INEGroup] will have further
    comments to this atricle/essay at a later date..

    Jeffrey A. Williams
    Spokesman for INEGroup
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