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    Re: .biz Is Tiny -- or Is It?
    by joppenheimer on Thursday June 21 2001, @06:26AM (#926)
    User #5 Info | http://JudithOppenheimer.com
    This "guy" has irresponsibly published subjective, incomplete and unverified data, neither contacting the subject company prior to publication nor showing any willingness to update his report as accurate information is supplied; under the "legitimacy umbrella" of Berkman's domain he has called into question this company's veracity and legitimacy, resulting in what appears to be intentional defamation of a small business ill equipped to incur the cost of such defamation and subsequent damage control etc.

    I don't care his lack of age or education. Lack of integrity is another matter.

    My prior contact with Ben Edelman has been re his hosting of the ICANN meeting remotes. Because I have only had respect for him I assumed a legitimacy of his report, deeming it worthy of examination and possible publication on ICB.

    On this basis I wrote to Ben asking for explanation of various statements, for example, his "it seemed to me intuitively plausible that the ARNI .BIZ might in fact have had very few registered .BIZ second-level domains (SLDs) at that time, or conceivably even none."

    Expecting a rational email dialogue, twice I asked why he proposed that this conjecture, accurate or not, was significant to the .biz issue. ie, why are these questions significant?

    Twice he deflected word-for-word without missing a beat, "I'm afraid you'll have to draw your own conclusion re the significance of my findings."

    In fact, each question I asked resulted in an ICANN-like "why do you ask?" or "refer back to what I said in the report."

    With some disappointment it became evident that Ben cannot withstand the most elementary discussion of his report, to my mind calling into question *its* veracity and legitimacy.

    So I suggest to you that it is not Edelman who is due "a break."

    Judith
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    Re: .biz Is Tiny -- or Is It? by joppenheimer
    Re: .biz Is Tiny -- or Is It?
    by Anonymous on Thursday June 21 2001, @07:41AM (#927)

    Ben's report clearly says what results can be achieved when using an extremely well-documented method. There is precisely one assumption underlying this report: Namely, that Atlantic Root's Whois database is kind of exact.

    As we all know by now, this assumption was not entirely correct: According to Leah, various domains were registered by Atlantic Root on behalf of various clients. But does this invalidate Ben's figures? Not at all. And does it say anything about Ben's integrity? Not at all. (In fact, it says much more about Leah's.)

    So how, dear Judith, do you come to talk about "defamation", and about "subjective, incomplete, and unverified data"? In fact, Ben's report is just the opposite: It's a clearly-written account of the data ARNI publicizes, with some easily verifiable statistics and plots.

    Also, it's the first time that there is any foundation for making a rough estimate of the credibility of Leah's claims - and that's a good thing.

    So, if you want to criticize the report, criticize indivdual aspects. Prove where the report is wrong. Create the kind of report on ARNI you believe to be objective, verified, and complete.

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