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    Re: Who Represents Whom?
    by Anonymous on Thursday June 14 2001, @03:34AM (#847)
    They sit because they were asked, because everyone knows that the election process is broken beyond words, and because what the world doesn't need is a whole table full of people who are incapable of holding a discussion without reducing themselves to a .advocacy flamewar in the flesh.

    One only need look through the At-Large Study Committee comments to see that the whole direction behind At Large is being reevaluated. And more importantly, I can FULLY understand the comments made regarding the two most vocal of the elected members.

    It's not about their opinions, nor about their abrasiveness; it's about their complete lack of success, due to their complete failure to back up anything they say beyond a single zingy one-liner. People who are supposed to be technical using utterly non-technical means, people who are supposed to understand politics who shoot themselves in the head.

    I see nine miles of criticism and not a single step towards moving the other board members to compromise. I see people who abrasively attack the very people they're supposed to be convincing to change. I see people who have no problems expressing their opinions, but a lifetime of problems trying to express why they hold them. I see people who go from point to point laying in attacks, insisting on having a last word. And I see people who fail, in doing so, to embrace the fact that they now represent a group of people larger than their own opinion. Neither of those individuals can be said to represent the opinions of their constituency unless their constituency exists of chat-room banter and alt.flame.

    I've witnessed two board meetings now, and if the private communication is as bad as their public communication, then I'm not surprised that they've failed to convince anyone of anything. They have failed us by their inability to explain their point, quite frankly. Listening to people who are SUPPOSED to be technical throwing around really bad, vague, and poorly constructed metaphors about arriving in Stockholm and being surprised that he couldn't read the language is proof that a mistake has been made at the lowest, grassroot levels of internet governance, and I hope he feels as dumb as he looks for failing to make the point which MIGHT EVEN HAVE BEEN INTERESTING had he used the technical knowledge he was supposed to have.

    I think it's a sad state that two individuals are so desperate to get support that they resort to public floggings when their own failed attempts to convince people through rational discourse go sour. I think that the burden for this state falls upon the voters who elected them, who should be sitting there and scratching their heads, wondering if they should have elected people who could have actually gotten something done.

    And I think it's a shame that Muller-Maghun will get painted with the same brush as Auerbach, when one of them is far worse at being a decent representative than the other. One of them I'd even consider voting for under different circumstances.

    There, I've said it. Blast away.
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