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    Re: Are Multiple Roots Outside the Scope of ICANN?
    by tlr (reversethis-{gro.tsixe-ton-seod} {ta} {relsseor}) on Thursday June 07 2001, @11:08PM (#766)
    User #34 Info | http://log.does-not-exist.org/

    If ICANN would perform to the satisfaction of market participants, there would be no point in taking on the cost of creating alternative ways of resolving new TLDs - like new.net does. Maybe, instead of trying to get rid of alternative roots the hard way, ICANN should try to get the current mess cleaned up gratuitously, and to perform better in the future.

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    Re: Are Multiple Roots Outside the Scope of ICANN?
    by Wireless on Friday June 08 2001, @04:56AM (#768)
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    To obtain a detailed perspective on New.net's proposal for a market-based TLD creation and allocation structure -- reducing ICANN's role to a merely technical one -- read the white paper found here:

    http://www.new.net/WhitePaper.doc
    or
    http://www.new.net/NewnetPaper.pdf
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    Re: Are Multiple Roots Outside the Scope of ICANN?
    by fnord (groy2kNO@SPAMyahoo.com) on Friday June 08 2001, @06:08AM (#771)
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    M. Stuart Lynn states in his draft that Over the past several years, some groups have established alternative root nameservers on the public Internet. I found this a rather curious statement. What is the 'public' internet? I am presumably free to walk down the street and enter a house of ill repute. Does that make it a 'public' place?

    I previously did a bit of content analysis regarding the repetition of the word 'community' in Lynn's draft. The 46 times it appears there is surpassed by the 48 times 'public' is used. ICANN seems to be floating a meme here, that to it has fallen the sacred trust of not only numbering each house, but specifying which should be considered 'on the other side of the tracks' for the greater good.

    In actuality I may choose to use new.net or ORSC or Walid or an increasing host of others to act as a taxi service and neither I nor the cab driver pay much attention to such abstractions. ICANN may or may not be a single point of failure but it is a convenient single point of control. It is apparently scaring the pants off the control freaks that this single point is no more than a shared hallucination, only agreed to when it was consensual. ICANN's unilateral and repeated claim that the illusion is still real because they say so just doesn't wash anymore. Taxi! -g

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    Re: Are Multiple Roots Outside the Scope of ICANN?
    by SimonHiggs on Friday June 08 2001, @04:08PM (#775)
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    Please see the following internet drafts for the technical details of the alternate roots. Maybe you won't then jump to such false conclusions:

    Alternative Roots and the Virtual Inclusive Root
    http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-higgs-virtual-root-00.txt

    Root Zone Definitions
    http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-higgs-root-defs-01.txt
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    Re: Are Multiple Roots Outside the Scope of ICANN?
    by 300baud (service at evesnetwork dot com) on Saturday June 09 2001, @02:13AM (#778)
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    Mutliple roots are mutually exclusive. Period

    My testbed DNS server queries multiple roots and works quite well. Each TLD belongs to a single root and zero collisions.

    The "it can't be done" argument washes almost as well as Mr Lynn's "single point of control" premise.

    ICANN does have authority for the USG A root, but to try and exclude all other roots from existense is nothing more than Microsoft style monopolism.

    Idealism and freedom are not dead on the Internet.

    300baud
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    Re: Are Multiple Roots Outside the Scope of ICANN?
    by Mueller ({mueller} {at} {syr.edu}) on Monday June 18 2001, @11:44AM (#896)
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    If multiple roots are mutually exclusive, and you know what you are talking about technically (which I doubt) then please reply to this message by identifying yourself promsing to pay me $50 if you ever claim that other roots will lead to technical instability or otherwise lead to compatibility problems on the Internet.

    Ya can't have it both ways. Either they are "mutually exclusive" and therefore don't effect the ICANN root, or they cause instability. Either/or. Let me know which side you pick as soon as you make up your mind.

    And oh, as for my "filthy economical interests" I'm a university professor.
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