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    Re: Are Multiple Roots Outside the Scope of ICANN?
    by Anonymous on Thursday June 07 2001, @08:54PM (#765)
    Root Servers are no longer needed. They are now at best a publisher of stale data about TLD servers. One can track TLD servers directly from the TLD servers, once they are located. Now that the Internet has several hundred thousand servers serving .COM zones alone, it is not hard to find some nameservers and query them for the location of TLD Servers. Once located, one does not need to do a random query or rely on stale top-down information from a Root Server to track the TLD servers. The TLD servers are stable and do not rely on a "root" to be stable. They are attached to the net like any other server and gain their stability from operational excellence, not a "root".
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    Re: Are Multiple Roots Outside the Scope of ICANN?
    by tlr (reversethis-{gro.tsixe-ton-seod} {ta} {relsseor}) on Thursday June 07 2001, @11:08PM (#766)
    User #34 Info | http://log.does-not-exist.org/

    If ICANN would perform to the satisfaction of market participants, there would be no point in taking on the cost of creating alternative ways of resolving new TLDs - like new.net does. Maybe, instead of trying to get rid of alternative roots the hard way, ICANN should try to get the current mess cleaned up gratuitously, and to perform better in the future.

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    Re: Are Multiple Roots Outside the Scope of ICANN?
    by Wireless on Friday June 08 2001, @04:56AM (#768)
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    To obtain a detailed perspective on New.net's proposal for a market-based TLD creation and allocation structure -- reducing ICANN's role to a merely technical one -- read the white paper found here:

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    Re: Are Multiple Roots Outside the Scope of ICANN?
    by fnord (groy2kNO@SPAMyahoo.com) on Friday June 08 2001, @06:08AM (#771)
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    M. Stuart Lynn states in his draft that Over the past several years, some groups have established alternative root nameservers on the public Internet. I found this a rather curious statement. What is the 'public' internet? I am presumably free to walk down the street and enter a house of ill repute. Does that make it a 'public' place?

    I previously did a bit of content analysis regarding the repetition of the word 'community' in Lynn's draft. The 46 times it appears there is surpassed by the 48 times 'public' is used. ICANN seems to be floating a meme here, that to it has fallen the sacred trust of not only numbering each house, but specifying which should be considered 'on the other side of the tracks' for the greater good.

    In actuality I may choose to use new.net or ORSC or Walid or an increasing host of others to act as a taxi service and neither I nor the cab driver pay much attention to such abstractions. ICANN may or may not be a single point of failure but it is a convenient single point of control. It is apparently scaring the pants off the control freaks that this single point is no more than a shared hallucination, only agreed to when it was consensual. ICANN's unilateral and repeated claim that the illusion is still real because they say so just doesn't wash anymore. Taxi! -g

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    Re: Are Multiple Roots Outside the Scope of ICANN?
    by Anonymous on Friday June 08 2001, @12:56PM (#773)
    Mutliple roots are mutually exclusive. Period.

    This is a technical function of how the DNS system is designed, and not something that can be decided by ICANN or any other political organisation.

    To get a multiple-root system to work, the DNS protocol must be redesigned. Most people who have run a DNS server for some time, in large scale, do not think this will happen.

    Instead of pursuing your own filthy economical interests I suggest that you try to understand why things work as they do, on a technical level.
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    Re: Are Multiple Roots Outside the Scope of ICANN?
    by Anonymous on Sunday June 10 2001, @05:23PM (#797)
    It appears that many people do not know how the DNS works, or how the Internet in general works.

    How can clueless people be expected to make intelligent comments ?

    How much effort has ICANN spent educating people ?

    The ICANN Board is clearly clueless.

    How can people take clueless people seriously ?
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    Re: Are Multiple Roots Outside the Scope of ICANN?
    by Anonymous on Sunday June 10 2001, @07:39PM (#801)

    Harald Alvestrand, Rob Austein, Fred Baker, Eric Brunner-Williams,
    Randy Bush, Vint Cerf, Kilnam Chon, Dave Crocker, Leslie Daigle,
    Patrik F„ltstr÷m, Michael Froomkin, Francis Gurry, Paul Hoffman,
    Kenny Huang, Mao Wei, Michael Mealing, Gary Oglesby, Qian Huilin,
    James Seng, Theresa Swinehart, Len Tower, and Zita Wenzel as well as
    some long-ago conversations with Jon Postel and J.C.R. Licklider.
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    Re: Are Multiple Roots Outside the Scope of ICANN?
    by Anonymous on Wednesday June 13 2001, @07:10AM (#834)
    FURTHER RESOLVED [01.02] that a salary for Dr. Lynn at the rate of US$245,000 per annum and the other terms and benefits of Dr. Lynn's employment are approved;

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