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    Re: noisey, U.S. centric views
    by Anonymous on Tuesday October 08 2002, @03:24AM (#9627)
    "ICANN has a duty to respond"

    A duty to who? Please explain who you think this duty is for. i.e. mainland Chinese community? American businesses? The world community that believe in democratic processes? Who is this duty for?

    Secondly, do you mean the bottom-up, consensus based ICANN entity - ideals not recognized by China - has such duty? or do you mean Joe Sims, Louis Touton, Stuart Lynn, Vint Cerf, ICANN staff have such duty? Exactly which "people", "processes" or "constituencies" as proposed by the ERC have such expertise to carry out this "duty"?
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    Re: noisey, U.S. centric views by Anonymous
    Re: noisey, U.S. centric views
    by fnord (groy2kNO@SPAMyahoo.com) on Tuesday October 08 2002, @05:06AM (#9634)
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    ICANN considered it its duty to release ICP-3, in which they contend:
    The DNS is a globally distributed database of domain name (and other) information. One of its core design goals is that it reliably provides the same answers to the same queries from any source on the public Internet...
    Now China clearly doesn't buy into this global accessibility. Some may recall that new.net, a so-called alternate root, was treated much like the Falun Gong due to their allegedly not going along with this global accessibility. It strikes me as strange that on the one hand ICANN considers global accessibility a sort of holy grail, while on the other hand they go blithely into the belly of the beast. Now I suppose that one could argue that ICANN is intentionally going to China in hopes of bringing them around, but I'll believe that when I see it.

    Ben Edelman also studied internet filtering in China, including a tool for testing which URLs are blocked. ICANNWatch.org isn't at present. :) The non-complete list of those that are or have been blocked by China is impressive. I mean what did uscourts.gov, mit.edu, or lysanderspooner.org do to get on this list?

    I find this whole thing kind of silly anyway. As I've pointed out on various occasions, while my access to google.com is not blocked in Canada, my attempt to go there with my web-broswer sends me instead to google.ca, if I want a yahoo.com email address I am instead given yahoo.ca. There is no global internet, the only issue is who is deciding who accesses what. Now as I also pointed out at the time that China was blocking google.com (and google.ca), one could simply go to aol.com from China and do a google search. All that such repression does is teach people how to work around it, the more sophisticated the filtering, the more sophisticated users become. -g

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