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    Re: noisey, U.S. centric views
    by fnord (groy2kNO@SPAMyahoo.com) on Tuesday October 08 2002, @06:29AM (#9640)
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    I will take any explanation of what "bringing them around" could possibly mean where 1) ICANN expertise is concerned and/or 2) the structural make-up of the ICANN entity as recognized by China.
    Well, ICANN tries to convince the Chinese authorities of the wisdom of ICP-3. If current trends continue, within this decade there will be more internet users inside China than everywhere else put together. If they want to maintain a Great Fire Wall, then perhaps they should be left to that. OTOH China and the Ukraine, for a couple of examples, are known as sources of software piracy. The US uses the threat of trade sanctions to get them to clean up their act. Isn't that interfering in internal matters of another country? Admittedly that is the USG and not ICANN doing so, but I think the principle remains the same. If China won't play nice with the global internet, why go there?

    I believe it is your ISP that is re-directing your yahoo.com inquiry. You continue to support this when you pay your ISP each month.
    No, it is yahoo.com sniffing out my incoming IP address. It knows that that IP block is assigned in Canada (this isn't foolproof) so it redirects me to yahoo.ca. I can mask my IP and get around it if necessary. My point was that someone somewhere is making the decision that I will access something different than you do, and we may each be unaware of that. This is a widespread practice and I feel it is growing. ICP-3 ignores that and is less relevant in consequence. -g
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    Re: noisey, U.S. centric views by fnord
    Re: noisey, U.S. centric views
    by Anonymous on Tuesday October 08 2002, @08:00AM (#9647)
    "Admittedly that is the USG and not ICANN doing so"

    big, BIG difference here.

    "but I think the principle remains the same."

    not even close unless one makes the assumption that the ICANN entity is acting on orders from the USG which then opens an entirely different can of worms all together. Thus far, Nancy Victory is quick to say DoC supports ICANN's efforts and the continued privatization of DNS addressing. I have never heard any member of the USG state that its role is to influence the outcome so to speak, unless someone cares to correct me. USG is accountable to its constituencies...the people. ICANN, as members of USG have been famously quoted, is accountable to no one.

    "No, it is yahoo.com sniffing out my incoming IP address."

    Gotcha.
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