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    Re: ICANN's China Question
    by Anonymous on Monday October 07 2002, @11:22AM (#9590)
    clearly another article that demonstrates noisey, U.S. centric views from people that fail to understand the non-democratic, geo-political issues that swirl around ICANN because they have their head in the sand.
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    Re: ICANN's China Question
    by Anonymous on Monday October 07 2002, @03:51PM (#9606)
    ICANN is undemocratic by nature, so an unholly alliance with the Chinese government is unsurprising.

    --Anion
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    Re: ICANN's China Question
    by Anonymous on Monday October 07 2002, @04:54PM (#9608)
    So what if someone wants a vacation to see the Great Wall on the tab? Thers's a free internet in China so they can send back some pics. No worries about IP protections, (wink) 'eh mates?
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    Re: ICANN's China Question
    by Anonymous on Monday October 07 2002, @06:34PM (#9610)
    It is likely that in Shanghai ICANN will drive the final nail into the coffin of the public accountability and public participation.

    ICANN's ERP ought to be renamed "Tiananmen II".
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    Re: ICANN's China Question
    by Anonymous on Monday October 07 2002, @10:46PM (#9619)
    http://xinsheng.net/articles/gb/2002/10/3/2002-10-3.htm#14
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    Human Rights Watch [www.hrw.org] Hi-jacked!
    by Anonymous on Monday October 07 2002, @11:39PM (#9621)
    Domain: www.hrw.org can NOT be resolved corretly by DNS servers from China



    DNS lookup qerry result for www.hrw.org in USA is:



    Name: www.hrw.org

    Address: 199.173.149.254

    DNS lookup qerry result for www.hrw.org from China are following:



    ---------------------------------------------

    1. DNS Server reply from Beijing, China:

    Name: www.hrw.org

    Address: 64.33.88.161



    ---------------------------------------------

    2. DNS Server reply from Guangzhou, China:

    Name: www.hrw.org

    Address: 64.33.88.161



    ---------------------------------------------


    3. DNS Server reply from Shanghai, China:

    Name: www.hrw.org

    Address: 64.33.88.161



    ---------------------------------------------


    4. DNS Server reply from Shenzhen, China:

    Name: www.hrw.org

    Address: 64.33.88.161

    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    Re: ICANN's China Question
    by Anonymous on Tuesday October 08 2002, @09:22AM (#9649)
    Well, just a nice and pleasant business trip.
    ICANN is just like any other business organizations that need some nice place to attract attendees.
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    Re: ICANN's China Question
    by Anonymous on Wednesday October 09 2002, @06:13AM (#9674)
    I posted a similar message regarding The DNSO begins to unravel.

    ICANN is the ultimate Internet joke here. ICANN inhibited the DNSO, GAC and others in the Internet development processes to such a degree, that development and productivity concerning the Internet has all but stopped with no will to move forward. All ICANN has done with its BSing the current Administration and others is screw itself.

    Also, the DNSO, GAC and other participants deserve credit for all or the hard work and tireless effort in developing new ideas and for their effort in advancing the direction of the Internet.

    However, ICANN itself deserves credit for being so dishonest and self-serving with its process and policy, only agreeing with the participants when it serves ICANN's special interests. ICANN does not move forward in the best interest of the Internet or its participants and/or end users. ICANN only agrees with the DNSO, GAC and others when the bill fits ICANN's predetermined plan of how the Internet is to be in the eyes of ICANN itself.

    There appears to be no Democracy or U.S. Constitution that governs ICANN. ICANN serves itself to pay itself. ICANN serves to pay its real players. ICANN is a cheapskate of the worst kind. In so doing, ICANN has cheated itself and others.

    ICANN appears to be only an American scam in the eyes of the Global Internet Community. And it is. ICANN could care less about the Global Internet Community. ICANN only cares about paying its players and nothing else. ICANN and its policy and process is an example of one of the worst U.S. Government backed organizations visible to the common person.

    The U.S. Government backing ICANN appears to be a good example of what is
    going wrong with America today.

    * ICANN must believe that the only way it can raise money for itself at this time is to sell out to China. Why not? It appears to me that China would govern the Internet better than ICANN at this point. At least if China governed the Internet, one would know that there is no real policy and due process.

    ICANN is not salvageable and should be dismantled and done away with.

    --
    DC
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    Re: ICANN's China Question
    by Anonymous on Thursday October 10 2002, @12:40AM (#9683)
    "Apparently, ICANN picks the venue for its meetings according to a simple metric: first, choose the continent/region. Then find a place where the local government or other body is willing to pick up the expenses. Freedom, or even government-backed Internet instability, isn't an issue."

    Please provide a list of countries, where ICANN is able to setup its meetings, that fit your minimum criteria list on freedoms and liberties and is also accessible for ccTLD-managers from registries like ".iq, .kp, .ir, .ly, .sy" etc. etc.

    I doubt for instance whether the United States of America will be qualifying for this list. Except when the representants of those ccTLD's are provided with corps diplomatique status.
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    Re: ICANN's China Question
    by Anonymous on Monday October 14 2002, @02:20PM (#9735)
    中国出现劫持国际网站域名行为VOA report : Forbidden Sites Hijacked All Over China October 14
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