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    OK, then let's remove the "ridiculuous" rules
    by edelman@law.harvard. on Friday September 27 2002, @07:43AM (#9431)
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    Fair enough. If that's the community consensus, though, isn't the proper procedure for the registration restrictions (that prohibit reselling) to be explicitly rescinded by community consensus.

    To me, it seem odd simply to ignore (flout and fail to enforce) a rule that at least some people say isn't appropriate. If the rule is in fact to be removed, then let's go ahead and remove it. But so long as it's on the books, I'm not sure it's right or sensible just to pretend it's not in effect.
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    Re: TLD Registration Enforcement: A Call for Autom
    by Anonymous on Saturday September 28 2002, @05:28AM (#9443)
    I don't think anyone's arguing against profit, but there is a difference between a reasonable profit and profiteering, and in the case of .US, there are requirements that should be enforced because .US was specifically created to benefit U.S.-based businesses and citizens, or those foreign entities with a bona fide US presence. I found an Australian registrar who had hundreds if not thousands of .US domains registered. The .US Nexus requirements clearly state the requirements. When I was told, after several attempts to contact the Enom-sponsored reseller, that they wanted $1500 for a single domain -- Enom at that time quoted around $29 for a .US domain -- I complained to the authorities. Neustar pointed me toward the conflict resolution via arbitration at $1600 (now $2000 through AAA), and Enom -- located in Redmond, WA --refused to even enforce its own policy, that requires the registrant to comply with the Nexus requirements and provide full contact information. I corresponded with James Beaver, the marketing VP and Kelsey Grehr (sp), the abuse contact. The reseller's name is Jason Namours, and after my complaint, he changed almost everything in his 'who-is' listing over, naming the guy who was originally only listed as his US-based billing contact Brad Norrish. Interestingly, the administrative and technical contact e-mails are still info@registrations.com.au, based in Melbourne, Australia. I think it's clear that .US domains are designed for use by US-based individuals and companies, and by foreign based companies which have a substantial US presence. I don't think an Australian registrar with a US billing contact qualifies. But I'm not going to spend $1500-$1600 to get a .US domain: they're virtually worthless when compared to .com domains of the same name. And I'm not going to spend $2000 for an arbitration. I'm just saying that in certain circumstances, requirements are appropriate, and should be consistently enforced. It's clear that Enom made no effort to enforce its requirements when it initially transferred the domains, and grudgingly did so when prompted to do something. And at that point, their action stopped. They put lipstick on the pig, and called it a supermodel.

    I think this deserves some examination from a regulatory perspective.
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